Thinking of a .45 but need opinions

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I gotta second quick draw on Hi-Point's customer service. Bought a carbine used missing some pieces, they sent them to me overnight, despite the fact that I bought it that way. QUALITY customer service.

However, I'll also second the recommendation on a 1911.

And I'll second the recommendation on 45 being an expensive gun to shoot. My first pistol was a 45, and a .22 followed very closely behind.
 
I will look into the Rock Island 1911 because based on how my friend's Springfield 1911 shot. I'm guessing there will be a big quality difference between the two, but still should shoot close to the same based on the design of the 1911?
 
First I suggest getting to a range that rents guns and trying a lot of guns. A two gun sample is too small to figure much out. It is very possible what you liked were the platforms, or the combination of platform and caliber, and not just the caliber. If this is the case, you may get something else in that caliber and be very disappointed. Or you may like the caliber. You won't really know until you try other guns.

There are a few good guns in the ~$400 price range, but not many good .45s. If you like a bigger caliber, try the .40S&W, if you like it you will open up many more options.

As for your stated choices, I wouldn't necessarily suggest any of them (I don't know enough about the Witness to comment about it).

Hi Points can be reliable, but they are cheap guns with poor ergonomics. Fine for just for the heck of it after buying other guns, or if you can't afford anything else. As an only gun when you can swing something else, I wouldn't suggest it.


If you want a Ruger .45ACP get the P/KP90 or the discontinued P97. For my evaluation of the KP345 see my next post (I edited it out to make this post more managable).

I love Taurus. I think the 24/7 is a great design. If you were looking for a 9mm or a .40 I'd endorse this one. However, they have had some issues with the 24/7 in .45ACP (it seems that nearly all of the problems I've ever heard of with this pistol were .45ACP). If you want a .45 and a Taurus, check out the PT945. The PT1911 may be a little more than you want to spend, but if you see one near your limit, grab it.

The Glock? Nothing wrong with it, but it is far over your limit. If you'll change your limit for the Glock, there are a lot of other guns you should consider.

My suggestion if after trying some other guns you still want a .45ACP:

-Consider used guns. That may put some S&Ws, SIGs, Glocks, Springfields, Kimbers and other higher quality brands in your price range.

-Rock Island Armory 1911. I don't have one but I hear a lot of praise for it.

-Charles Daly 1911. They can be hit or miss, but I am well over 10K rounds through mine and through most of its life it has been reliable enough to load up as my bedside gun on occasion (when the reliablity goes down, all it has needed so far was new springs).

-As I said above: Ruger P90, Ruger P97 (used only), Taurus PT945 (though make sure it fits your hand) and Taurus PT1911 (if you can find one in your price range)
 
OK, as to the Ruger KP345:

Rugers generally have great reputations. I suspect many of the KP345 votes are from people who know Ruger from reputation (or own other Rugers) but don't own the KP345. There are of course happy owners, but this is a risky gun. There were some design flaws (a weak mag disconnect that can make the gun inoperable if ever dry fired without the mag inserted for one) and if you look around the web (check the Ruger forum on Unitedforums) you will see quite a few people with problems.

I had one that I really wanted to like. My first auto was a Ruger (so I wanted one for nostalgic reasons), but now I find them too boxy. The new KP345 was a departure for Ruger, a very nice, ergonomic design. I love .45ACP. Ruger has a stellar rep for reliability. Then I bought one- nothing but trouble. Many failures to feed, failures to eject, failures to go into battery. Some range trips I couldn't even get one mag through the gun without a problem. Some of the problems involved the gun jamming so completely (it wouldn't go into battery, then the slide wouldn't budge one way or another) that it took a lot of force to finally unjam it- this occured about once every range trip or two. Then I started seeing a lot of other people on the web with similar issues. I sold mine after getting it semi-reliable (finally- only took about a year and a half).

I hope they've ironed out their issues, but the rumor was that they did about the time I bought mine.
 
first and foremost look at the xd line up they pack 13 rds in a pretty nice sized package even for me with small hands.

i like glock i do but nothing other than thier 9mm models, i can not stand thier .45 caliber models. so i would say no to that.

i like my ruger p345 it is a nice gun and very very accurate the most accurate gun i have owned as a matter of fact. they are easy on the budget too. i got mine for $369 plus tax.
 
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