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Thinking of Selling .44 Mag Revolver to Buy .460 Rowland

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Mike1234567, Sep 28, 2011.

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Sell .44 Mag Revolver & Buy .460 Rowland?

Poll closed Nov 27, 2011.
  1. YES, and here's why.....

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
  2. NO, and here's why.....

    34 vote(s)
    54.8%
  3. WHY are you asking me?? Just man-up and make a decision.

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  1. Mike1234567

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    Howdy Folks... per the title...

    Please forgive all the line breaks... trying to keep my points clear so folks will actually read them. :D

    I really want to do this. Please either talk me out of it... or reinforce my desire to pull the trigger.

    Please don't make this a revolver vs. pistol debate. :rolleyes:

    No, I'm not going to keep both.

    I'm not going to mention the make/model/barrel length of my revolver because it's not important to this discussion.

    I prefer pistols over revolvers... just because. :)

    I bought my revolver before I knew of the .460 Rowland.

    It's very appealing to have .44 Mag performance in such a lightweight semi-auto platform.

    I'm aware that the 1911 frame will recoil more than a larger heavy revolver. I doubt that'll be a problem.

    I know the conversion will cause far more wear on the 1911 frame/rails. I'm okay with that.

    I'm aware that a .460 Rowland will cost more than most .44 Mag revolvers... FAR more than mine.

    I visit black bear country occasionally and this is for carry self-defense. I also expect feral hogs here to grow much larger over time.

    ETA #1: I voted "yes" because I think the .460 Rowland is kewl.

    ETA #2: Yes... I carry bear spray. ;)
     
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  2. CraigC
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    That's not a trade I would make. ".44Mag performance in a 1911" sounds like wonderful marketing but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It offers similar paper ballistics to low end .44 loads, only with vastly inferior bullets. Virtually no jacketed .45ACP bullet will be suitable for big game at the .460's velocities. Certainly not for stopping bears. Your average 1911 may or may not function well with cast SWC's, which have a very small meplat anyway. The best option is Buffalo Bore's 255gr@1300fps. Whereas the .44Mag can launch a 330gr bullet 50fps faster.

    In a .44Mag sixgun you can vary from mousefart .44Russian loads to monster masher 355's at 1200fps without swapping parts or worrying about function.

    Not to even mention how uncomfortable a 1911 will be at those recoil levels. There's not really anything to be gained here, only losses.
     
  3. Ranger30-06

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    CraigC has pretty much said it. You'll get every type of performance you could want with a .44, but the .460 is more of a novelty thing and that's about where it ends. It'll beat the snot out of the 1911, it's ungodly expensive to feed, and most bullets in that size cant even handle .460 velocities. I would stick with the .44, but it's your gun!
     
  4. mooner

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    If you want an auto with revolver power, I think the best bet is the Desert Eagle. Problem, obviously is the large size and weight that may exceed your revolver.

    There is no free lunch, as they say.....

    Your decision, why the hell are you asking me?????
     
  5. Tony_the_tiger

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    So do it ;p
     
  6. Loosedhorse

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    1. Will the .460 Rowland be around in 10 years? 'Cause the .44 will!
    2. So you're rolling around with a bear one day, and you're going to use a semi-auto, which can be put out of battery with pressure on the muzzle?
    Hey, you really want a .460 Rowland? Get a Smith .45 ACP revolver (with moonclips) and have a gunsmith lengthen the charge holes in the cylinder. Yeah, I know: you're a "pistol guy."
    Sure it's important. 4 inch gun would be perfect for the woods--even if rolling around with Smokey. An 8 3/8 or 10 inch? Not so much.
     
  7. Mike1234567

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    You guys are making me re-think this... :)
     
  8. ForumSurfer

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    No...CraigC's post sums up my opinion.

    Preferences change, especially with plinking and range guns. I got out of revolvers a long, long time ago. Now I find myself craving a single action for plinking and backyard range use.
     
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    That's what we're here for; Bashing dreams and shoving reality down your throat all while handing you 300 off topic suggestions :D

    Just kidding :D
     
  10. Mike1234567

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    LOL!!

    Okay, this is why I posted the question... to have my dreams dashed to heck.

    To the Mods... please notice I didn't write "hell". :D
     
  11. David E

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    The make and model of the .44 matters.

    If it's an Excam, RG, Arminius or Astra, I'd dump it, too.

    But I'd get a GOOD .44 revolver instead.
     
  12. Mike1234567

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    No, no, NO!! I'm not telling what make/model/barrel length revolver I have. This is strictly a .44 Mag revolver vs. .460 Rowland pistol thread!! :D
     
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    Just get a 10mm Glock, load it full house, and keep your 44Mag.
     
  14. Mike1234567

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    Ohhh... now you've done it!! You've gone and introduced friggin' Glocks. I hate Glocks. Okay... I don't "hate" them... they just don't fit my needs. On the other hand... a 10mm... hmm...
     
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    Save your money and keep an eye out for a Grizzly semi-auto or AMT/IAI Automag IV in .45 Win Mag. At least when you get tired of it beating you to death, you'll have something better to trade for another .44 Magnum.
     
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    .44 Mag in that case :D For a lot of reasons but I'll keep it simple here...
     
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    I'll buy your 44 mag brass :)
     
  18. CraigC
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    I'd rather have a .460Rowland than a 10mm Glock. At least a 1911 can have a good trigger pull. Bullet selection is not great for the .460 but at least it's better than for the 10mm. As one who is about to venture forth to the deer woods with the original 10mm (.38-40).
     
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    We all saw this coming...typical, yet funny :neener:

    I still say keep the 44.
     
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    Doesn't have to be a Glock. It came to mind based on a recent police Glock 20 turn-in sale I heard about.
     
  21. 451 Detonics

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    This....

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    shoots all these...150gr WC, 45ACP, 45 Super, 460 Rowland, 45 AR, and the 45 shotshell...can't get much more versatile...

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    I would say get a 625 and have Clark ream the cylinder...
     
  22. Loosedhorse

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    So...bear is barreling in on me, I look at the Glock 20 in my hand, thinking:

    A. Gosh, if only I'd brought my Delta, I'd have a better trigger, or
    B. Where's my .458 Win Mag rifle?!

    ;)

    True: in non-emergencies, you'll probably notice the trigger-pull difference.
    Ah: my suggestion from post #6, in the flesh! I wonder if Clark does titanium cylinders...
     
  23. 451 Detonics

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    Don't know...he charges 100 bucks for carbon or stainless... http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/revserv.htm#rowland I have thought about having my Ruger Blackhawk done but with the 45 Colt cylinder it would be sorta redundant...

    I would think it would be rather unpleasant to shoot in a gun that light. I tried some of my Super loads in my 325PD, 230gr at 1100 fps...they hurt me....
     
  24. Mike1234567

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    Please don't make this a revolver vs. pistol debate.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    Yeah, because I'm more than willing to spend the time to get very familiar and proficient with a pistol that has an atrocious trigger and is only good for self defense at short ranges. Or I'll just use a 1911 that is actually a decent general purpose pistol.
     
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