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Ex-actaly !!!
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This explains a lot about the 22lr issues
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Mike1234567
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I back-ordered nearly 11,000 rounds recently. I hope to see it in 2-3 months. I suggest we ALL do the same... exercise the TINIEST BIT of patience and WAIT for back-orders to arrive and STOP paying these crazy I-WANT-IT-NOW prices. If we ALL do this ONE LITTLE THING then maybe this crap will stop PDQ.
Yes, there's a one box limit but that's per item/brand. I bought one box each of an 1400 rnd bucket plus a 4000 rnd case and a 5550 round case... all copper plated hollow points. I can wait 2-3 months. C'mon folks!! Let's all back-order and wait for it. PLEASE stop supporting the scumbag scalpers!!!
EDIT: I'm paying 4-4.8 cents per round plus shipping... an average of about 5 cents per round delivered!!!
Yes, there's a one box limit but that's per item/brand. I bought one box each of an 1400 rnd bucket plus a 4000 rnd case and a 5550 round case... all copper plated hollow points. I can wait 2-3 months. C'mon folks!! Let's all back-order and wait for it. PLEASE stop supporting the scumbag scalpers!!!
EDIT: I'm paying 4-4.8 cents per round plus shipping... an average of about 5 cents per round delivered!!!
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RussB
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Mike, don't you see that you're part of the problem?
Hoarding ammo has become the "In Thing" to do now...whether you shoot it or not
^^^^ Yes we can stop the shortage by everyone buying 11,000 rds. The problems with ammo and gun ownership to me will not get better. Between the antis and some gun owners regular guys who just buy some ammo when they want to shoot any type of gun are being squeezed by both sides.
Mike1234567
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No, I'm not part of the problem, Russ. How can refusing to pay more than a nickel per round (delivered) be part of the problem? I, and others, are examples to follow. DON'T PAY MORE THAN A NICKEL PER ROUND DELIVERED. WAIT for it. DON'T SUPPORT THE SCALPERS. We're by-passing the scalpers by WAITING for the ammo.
WAH-CHOO-TALKING-'BOUT?? And WHAT'S STOPPING YOU... and everyone else... from by-passing the scalpers???
BTW, I didn't order 100,000 rounds. I held back.
RussB
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You missed the obvious, Mike. You are buying ammo you admittedly don't shoot
Mike1234567
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Give me a break, Russ. You haven't back-ordered any .22LR at a nickel per round delivered... have you? So what, really, is your complaint?
I'm suggesting that we ALL B-O... and patiently wait for our nickel-per-round .22LR. AND that we ALL STOP SUPPORTING the scumbag scalpers. What is YOUR suggestion, Russ??
I'm suggesting that we ALL B-O... and patiently wait for our nickel-per-round .22LR. AND that we ALL STOP SUPPORTING the scumbag scalpers. What is YOUR suggestion, Russ??
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Mike1234567
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And share with those who don't "see the light". C'mon, folks... we're being USED by the scalpers. Please please please... stop supporting the scalpers. We sure as heck don't NEED them!!
Gun Master
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$.05 per round .22 Ammo
Mike, could you share with us your ordering source ? I've tried some mentioned, and wasn't successful. Oftentimes I've seen retailers and wholesalers names come up in discussions, and they are not in my area and/or never heard of them. Thanks
Mike, could you share with us your ordering source ? I've tried some mentioned, and wasn't successful. Oftentimes I've seen retailers and wholesalers names come up in discussions, and they are not in my area and/or never heard of them. Thanks
Mike1234567
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I'll bet I've given more .22LR away than many have been able to buy recently. The scalpers must be exterminated!! And the only way to do that is STOP buying from them. BUY IN BULK ON-LINE!!
Mike1234567
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Mike, could you share with us your ordering source ? I've tried some mentioned, and wasn't successful. Oftentimes I've seen retailers and wholesalers names come up in discussions, and they are not in my area and/or never heard of them. Thanks
Midway... all copper plated hollow point... 1400 rds plus 4000 rds plus 5550 rds. Because only one case per type/brand per order... only one each of those... but that's nearly 11,000 rds on one order. Cost me about a nickel per rd delivered. I could've ordered MUCH more but I'm a cheap SOB so I only ordered what was cheapest... but very decent ammo.
BUT... we'll see if it ever gets here.
godale
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back in the hey days of nascar and hotwheel diecast this was a commom thing
larryh1108
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I see it going another year. As the people who have been buying a lot are satisfied and it becomes a little more common (like now in some places), the people who got caught short this time around will then fill their needs, which has increased due to getting stung here. On top of that, all the new .22LR shooters who don't know what .22LR ammo used to cost will jump in and stock up a few thousand themselves. As long as it's scarce, it will stay scarce. I don't think it will catch up until we're all able to see .22s on the shelf every time we walk by the shelf. As long as there is a perceived shortage, people will continue to buy and store.
Then we have the mid-term elections in November. I don't know if it will affect anything but if we do as we say we will, we've vote out the gun grabbers and things will soften up. So, hold on for another year!
HOME DEPOT GEORGE
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I posted this way back on this thread http://www.wikiarms.com/ go to this site and sign up for email alerts but you have to be patient because you might go 2 to 3 weeks with nothing and then get 3 or 4 alerts in one day. I've accumulated about 6000+ rounds since mid october using this method and not being greedy I sold about 1500 to people I work with to give as Christmas gifts. .
I sure would like to see some factual data. Maybe a comparison of how many rounds of 22lr produced in each of the past 5 years. Maybe that would show us whether there is actually a shortage on the production end or a major increase in purchasing. Whether that purchasing is being done by new shooters or hoarders isn't really important to me as eventually supply should catch up assuming it isn't actually falling.
Jlr2267
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This is obvious to most. Buying thousands of rounds of un-needed ammo (and encouraging others to do so) as a solution to a shortage makes little sense.
"Scalpers" are the least of the problems.
BullSlinger
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Wow. Someone who buy all off the shelf when you could get it and then orders 11,000 rounds at a time and does not consider himself as part of the problem.
Quit blaming the government and manufactures and even the scalpers. Take a good look in the mirror.
Quit blaming the government and manufactures and even the scalpers. Take a good look in the mirror.
Mike1234567
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I was suggesting that we stop bothering with local retailers (for the short term) and just order .22LR in quantity online. If we do that then the scalpers have no reason to scalp and they'll stop. Certain retailers won't sell extremely overpriced ammo so they'll stop gouging. Once that happens then there will soon be reasonably priced .22LR on the retail shelves again in reasonable quantities. Of course, if you have a local retailer with it in stock at reasonable prices then, by all means, continue shopping there.
I'm buying another 10/22 soon so I will be shooting the ammo I buy. I just don't have a .22LR at the moment. I'll be shooting it quite often so 11K rounds isn't really that much.
I don't consider myself "part of the problem"... not in the least bit. I consider this strategy a fix to the problem (scalpers and gougers).
I'm buying another 10/22 soon so I will be shooting the ammo I buy. I just don't have a .22LR at the moment. I'll be shooting it quite often so 11K rounds isn't really that much.
I don't consider myself "part of the problem"... not in the least bit. I consider this strategy a fix to the problem (scalpers and gougers).
Jlr2267
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Scalpers and gougers did not create the shortage, high demand did (in which you are playing a part by purchasing thousands of rounds in a caliber for which you have no gun). Nothing at all wrong with what you are doing, but it *is* behavior that contributes to the shortage. Buy all you can, stash it, shoot it, sell it, whatever...it is *your* ammo after purchase so do as you please. And try to give others the same options with *their* ammo.
Unbelievable all that ammo and not even owning a 22. This has become a sick obsession it seems. It reminds me a little of the pet rock frenzy.What really makes me laugh is guys that stockpile all that ammo give some of it away?? I really do not believe it
Mike1234567
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FWIW, I'm trying to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. I will NOT buy overpriced ammo from scalpers nor will I buy from gouging retailers. IMHO, it's those buyers who support those people who are not only part of the problem... but the root of it. Bottom line is use whatever methods available to by-pass the gougers/scalpers. If we do that, the scalpers/gougers disappear... until we all panic again. The best way to do this, without running out of ammo, is to have plenty on hand so we can afford to wait a 2-3 months for delivery... or even longer.
I don't panic. I don't overpay. I don't run low on ammo. I plan and invest. I help others who either couldn't or just didn't plan and invest.
I don't panic. I don't overpay. I don't run low on ammo. I plan and invest. I help others who either couldn't or just didn't plan and invest.
Funny story: I'd just looked at my online source yesterday before going to see Ronin 47 with my wife. (Excellnt flick BTW.)
Afterwards we walk into Gander Mt's annual clothing clearance sale, and I spy pallets of 5.56 ammo. out in the aisles, back near the gun counters.
BULK 5.56 being sold @ .55-.60 cents per round, when I'd just been looking at it online, for cheap.(.32 a round, almost 50% less with no sales tax.) SO, anyway, the salesmen see my disbelief, and mistake it for being impressed they HAVE ammo, and they approach. One says, " Can you believe we've got your piles of ammo?!" My response, " Can you price this stuff as if nobody HAS a smart phone?"
As long as there's still a sucker born every minute, there will be scalpers/thieves/con artists. Of course, most of their firearms are priced with nearly the same mark-up...
a.) Humor. Take it with a sense of humor, and do not take it personally.
b.) Recognize that it will not get better; see the new CA legislation? The GSG-22s will be the new AR-15s.
Afterwards we walk into Gander Mt's annual clothing clearance sale, and I spy pallets of 5.56 ammo. out in the aisles, back near the gun counters.
BULK 5.56 being sold @ .55-.60 cents per round, when I'd just been looking at it online, for cheap.(.32 a round, almost 50% less with no sales tax.) SO, anyway, the salesmen see my disbelief, and mistake it for being impressed they HAVE ammo, and they approach. One says, " Can you believe we've got your piles of ammo?!" My response, " Can you price this stuff as if nobody HAS a smart phone?"
As long as there's still a sucker born every minute, there will be scalpers/thieves/con artists. Of course, most of their firearms are priced with nearly the same mark-up...
a.) Humor. Take it with a sense of humor, and do not take it personally.
b.) Recognize that it will not get better; see the new CA legislation? The GSG-22s will be the new AR-15s.
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Well people were already buying and stocking up on their stash before this happened. So what changed, demand largely from scalpers that probably don't even shoot.
I've bought ammo I don't intend to shoot. I'm stocking up for next hunting season. Guess I'm part of the problem to.
Not picking on you specifically but I've heard this before, about 22 ammo, and it always leaves me scratching my head. With 22 sold by the 100 or 325 or 525 pack.. one has to ask "how much ammo do you actually NEED to hunt with?"
Note that giving a justification like "hunting" gives equal justification to question the justification.
People who proclaim this while setting back thousands of rounds of 22 are either incredibly bad shots or take squirrel and rabbit by the truckload.
Our bag limits aren't sufficient to burn through one 325 round box of 22LR in a year, even if half the shots miss.
I'd rather someone tell me "I'm hoarding it" or "I shoot 2,000 rounds a month out of my tacticool 22 rifle", than lie and tell me "I'm stocking up for hunting." Unless they qualify it by saying "So my great-great-grandchildren can still have ammo to hunt with", "hunting" alone doesn't justify thousands of rounds of ammo.
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