I was thinking of purchasing a crimson grip for my PT 1911. I think they are great but I wanted to get some feedback from others that may already have them on their weapons. Do they really make a difference and are they worth the $ 250 + that they will cost me!
Thoughts on Crimson grips
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YES
YES
YES
parolebear
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I have them on a Glock 23. YES!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!! And yes I do know I am yelling. I Love mine. I have a friend that has them, lost the gun for three weeks in middle of winter, they worked fine when he found his gun. I am looking for others to put on my guns.
I have them on a Glock 23. YES!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!! And yes I do know I am yelling. I Love mine. I have a friend that has them, lost the gun for three weeks in middle of winter, they worked fine when he found his gun. I am looking for others to put on my guns.
K.L.O.sako
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YES !!!!!!!!
if your serious, spend the money. you will not be disappointed
if your serious, spend the money. you will not be disappointed
1911 guy
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What about "grabbing" your clothing?
Since the Crimson Trace grips are rubberized, how much do they tend to grab at your clothing when you move around? I've considered buying some for a long time, but I've always declined, afraid I'd dislike them for that reason and have wasted a few hundred bucks.
Since the Crimson Trace grips are rubberized, how much do they tend to grab at your clothing when you move around? I've considered buying some for a long time, but I've always declined, afraid I'd dislike them for that reason and have wasted a few hundred bucks.
George757
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Your vision changes, and that once clear sight picture suddenly changes too. I've got CT grips on 2 of my 1911's and love 'em (got 'em sighted for 5 yds). I wear IWB, under a T-shirt or polo shirt, and haven't had any issues with clothing 'sticking' to the grips.
glockman19
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Yes, Yes, Yes. Get them If you don't like them I'm sure you'll find someone here who will gladly take them off your hands.
Setting aim point?
How do you choose to adjust the laser relative to the sights? I just picked up a S&W MP340CT and it is a little disconcerting to have the spot match the sight at only one distance. I'm thinking I will either set it to match at a short distance or adjust the laser parallel to the barrel so the spot is consistently an inch (or whatever the distance is) low and right of the sight picture/point of impact.
Your thoughts please!
How do you choose to adjust the laser relative to the sights? I just picked up a S&W MP340CT and it is a little disconcerting to have the spot match the sight at only one distance. I'm thinking I will either set it to match at a short distance or adjust the laser parallel to the barrel so the spot is consistently an inch (or whatever the distance is) low and right of the sight picture/point of impact.
Your thoughts please!
1911 guy
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Laser and sight alignment.
Even your iron sighs only intersect bullet impact at one specific point. The bullet begins to drop as soon as it leaves the barrel (gravity), but the drop isn't apparent because of the distance the bullet travels in that short amount of time. Your sights, on the other hand, make a dead straight line because light (your vision) does not succumb to gravity.
Even your iron sighs only intersect bullet impact at one specific point. The bullet begins to drop as soon as it leaves the barrel (gravity), but the drop isn't apparent because of the distance the bullet travels in that short amount of time. Your sights, on the other hand, make a dead straight line because light (your vision) does not succumb to gravity.
armoredman
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CT rocks.
tydephan
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What model CZ is pictured in the photograph above? P01?
Thanks,
John
Thanks,
John
Omnivore
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"Even your iron sighs only intersect bullet impact at one specific point."
Actually, since the sights are above the bore, and you must have an effective "sight angle" (line of sight pointing down relative to the bore) so as to get the POI to coincide with POA (point of impact=point of aim) there are two "zeros":
Yes, the bullet "falls" like anything else under the influence of gravity, but to shoot any distance, you're actually pointing the bore upward, so the bullet follows an arc, upward into line of sight, above it, then falls back down through it.
With a laser mounted either beside or below the bore, there is only one "zero" since you will have the "line of sight" (the laser beam) either parallel to or pointing up relative to the bore. Once the bullet reaches the line of sight, its already falling below it.
None of this really matters at normal pistol combat distances, but it is a fact of ballistics none the less. Military revolvers from the 1850s and 60s were often regulated for 100 yards, so you have to qualify "combat distances". Normally we're talking about contact to 7 yards, in which case this is purely academic.
Actually, since the sights are above the bore, and you must have an effective "sight angle" (line of sight pointing down relative to the bore) so as to get the POI to coincide with POA (point of impact=point of aim) there are two "zeros":
Yes, the bullet "falls" like anything else under the influence of gravity, but to shoot any distance, you're actually pointing the bore upward, so the bullet follows an arc, upward into line of sight, above it, then falls back down through it.
With a laser mounted either beside or below the bore, there is only one "zero" since you will have the "line of sight" (the laser beam) either parallel to or pointing up relative to the bore. Once the bullet reaches the line of sight, its already falling below it.
None of this really matters at normal pistol combat distances, but it is a fact of ballistics none the less. Military revolvers from the 1850s and 60s were often regulated for 100 yards, so you have to qualify "combat distances". Normally we're talking about contact to 7 yards, in which case this is purely academic.
Omnivore
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Laser sights should be considered an indoor or low light sighting device. Outdoors in daylight they are worthless to almost worthless. By all means get one. Then try it sometime in daylight, against your speed and accuracy with the iron sights.
casual
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armoredman,
i second tydephan's request for the model of that CZ
what a great looking rig
how does it shoot?
any reliability problems?
(i know this is off-subject, but i would love some more info on your set up)
thanks,
casual
i second tydephan's request for the model of that CZ
what a great looking rig
how does it shoot?
any reliability problems?
(i know this is off-subject, but i would love some more info on your set up)
thanks,
casual
clemco51
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i also would like to know more about your gun and setup
i also would like to know more about your gun and setup
Camille Eonich
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YES! Love them!
koja48
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Don't own them (not to say that I never will, should my vision deteriorate), but I practice A LOT & at defense ranges, I don't even know that there are sights on my 1911 unless I'm trying for pin-point target accuracy, in which case iron sights work just fine. So in my case, for the moment I spend the money on other shooting-related things. Appears to be a personal whateverblowsyourskirtup kinda thing. I've used them on handguns owned by others and they DO work, however. Similar to other guns/gun-related purchases, if you want 'em, you want 'em . . .
jfh
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For a carry gun, and a HD gun, they are what we want.
At least, here's my thinking on it--
1. My background is in 'marksmanship'--those are the deeply-ingrained techniques I have. IOW, I unthinkingly seek a good sight pattern. That's a real counter-habit to good / fast combat shooting.
2. My eyes are older now--that dot, when it's available, really works for POA shooting. However, it isn't the sole answer, what with its disappearance in daylight.
3. Note that there is a new '105' (205?) model with a hard-plastic grip for you who worry about rubber grabbiness on a draw--but an appropriate pocket holster will deal with the grabbiness problem anyway, as well as help with printing and cleanliness issues, and even help with moisture / care issues. (Mika holsters)
3. I am using the CT has a dry-fire aid to develop DA skills with my DAO J-frames I bought specifically for carry and practice / alternate carry.
The 340 (.357 lightweight) has both a tritium front sight (good for aiming, night or day) and the LG-405 (boot grip) CT.
I turned in the 340 to my gunsmith yesterday for its action job, and picked up the 640. Based on my 340 experience, I've decided to add the LG-405 to the 640 (bigger grip for actually shooting .357s, not just .38 specials), and to have the standard black P&R ramp front sight changed out to a Meprolight as well.
You can't rely exclusively on them, obviously--but for a combat gun for civilians, I think they are the way to fly.
Jim
At least, here's my thinking on it--
1. My background is in 'marksmanship'--those are the deeply-ingrained techniques I have. IOW, I unthinkingly seek a good sight pattern. That's a real counter-habit to good / fast combat shooting.
2. My eyes are older now--that dot, when it's available, really works for POA shooting. However, it isn't the sole answer, what with its disappearance in daylight.
3. Note that there is a new '105' (205?) model with a hard-plastic grip for you who worry about rubber grabbiness on a draw--but an appropriate pocket holster will deal with the grabbiness problem anyway, as well as help with printing and cleanliness issues, and even help with moisture / care issues. (Mika holsters)
3. I am using the CT has a dry-fire aid to develop DA skills with my DAO J-frames I bought specifically for carry and practice / alternate carry.
The 340 (.357 lightweight) has both a tritium front sight (good for aiming, night or day) and the LG-405 (boot grip) CT.
I turned in the 340 to my gunsmith yesterday for its action job, and picked up the 640. Based on my 340 experience, I've decided to add the LG-405 to the 640 (bigger grip for actually shooting .357s, not just .38 specials), and to have the standard black P&R ramp front sight changed out to a Meprolight as well.
You can't rely exclusively on them, obviously--but for a combat gun for civilians, I think they are the way to fly.
Jim
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