THR Spiller & Burr Club

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The guys from the club liked how shiny mine was. Little do they know about that happens when it is shot. :rolleyes:

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
@Sleazyrider, yes, it is. @ BHP, thanks.

Took it partially apart tonight to see about the internals. Found a lot of tool marks on the bolt stop, so with some careful file work and emery paper, I have most of it smoothed out. Funny thing was that it also smoothed out the action a tad. I still have yet to take down to the hammer, spring and hand to check those out, but I will wait until after I have shot it and will have to clean it out.

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
Got one!

Happy birthday to me! I guess my wife picked up on my subtle little hints about S&Bs, that is, having my nose buried in the Colonel Burton's Spiller and Burr Revolver book as well as The Confederate Brass Framed Colt & Whitney book; not to mention the numerous Cabelas catalogs I leave lying around the house. So when I hefted the gift-wrapped box today, I knew it wasn't a power tool or new underwear---it was a Spiller and Burr! :D Saints be praised!

I'll post pics tomorrow, assuming membership is still open.
 
Dang. Perhaps I spoke too soon. After staying up quite late last night fondling my S&B, and after sleeping on it all night ... I believe I'll be sending it back.

Please tell me if I'm being to fussy, as I've been accused of this before:

1. The brass frame is somewhat pitted, as if the brass was too hot or too cold when it was being poured. Machining marks were buffed instead of being removed and then buffed.

2. There were no safety notches in the cylinder per Cabelas' description. I'm thinking about buying the appropriate cutter, indexing it in the mill, and cutting one safety notch in the cylinder.

3. It already has cylinder drag marks from the bolt having razor sharp edges.

4. The cylinder pin retaining latch is undersized in length. Somebody installed an incorrectly sized washer under the screw and to "fix" the problem, which only exacerbated it. The problem is that the sides of the frame aren't perfectly parallel and the latch binds when rotated. I can either spot face the frame on the milling machine for parallelity in this area, or make a brass shim on the lathe to install under the screw.

5. The cylinder edges, trigger, muzzle, bolt, et cetera, are replete with razor sharp edges that should be eased and reblued in my estimation.

6. The grips overhang the frame in several areas.

Problem is, I really want an S&B; and if I return it, who's to say the replacement won't be worse? On the other hand, I really don't have the urge to take on another project right now. I'm thinkin' these issues are "the nature of the beast," and I should fix it the way I want it and make it my own.

Decisions, decisions.
 
That's a tough one.Both my older Navy Arms and my newish Pietta came with safety notches in the cylinder but the spare cylinder I ordered from Dixie did not. It doesn't bother me. both of mine have the washer/cylinder pin problem you mentioned so that might be a design flaw,...what I would do is return this one, and if the next one isn't better, work it over to your specs. looking at originals in books [and one member here has a REAL one] you see that that's about the fit and finish of the is about like that. They were after all, a wartime expedient and that's part of the charm.
 
Sleazy, I had the same issues you did, I guess. What I did was to take the pistol apart and work on some of the parts to smooth them out.

However, that description of the frame being pitted has me wondering. If it is pitted, it indeed may have been a bad pour, in which case, I would not keep it. I would call Cabelas, tell them what the problem is, and ask to ship it back. They are supposed to have good customer service and should send you another.

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
Thanks for the dose of reality, fellers. I'll tinker with it as time permits. Although I haven't fired it yet, my S&B is here to stay:

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why are they not being supplied with safety-notched cylinders? this doesn't make any sense. a call to Cabelas might clear this up.
In any event Sleazy, you are now an offical member of the club...Welcome!!!!
 
Sleazy's Spiller&Burr

I like it and from the photos every thing looks fine. Just get to shooting it. The safety notches on originals were only on the later ones anyway, so who cares? A gun is only as safe as the person behind the trigger.
Col.LeMat
 
Well, the Col. has a point. I've seen pictures of the originals in both configurations, and I only use the spare cylinder at the range, bench shooting where the safety notches are a moot point anyways. If I carry it on the trail, I'll have the cylinder with the notches installed, of course, so I'll have the benifit of it being a six-shooter.
 
Oh, that one looks good. I don't see what you are seeing for pitting. From the looks of that, it will be just fine.

As for the 'safety' notches, I would not worry about it. Just don't load one when you are carrying and keep the hammer on it. At the range, load 'em all.

Next thing to do, take it apart and check out how rough the sides of the bolt stop are, smooth it out and check that trigger pull. Bet it gets a lot better.

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The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
Thanks BHP FAN. From everything I have read in the books on this pistol (this new unknown #977 above link) this seems to be a genuine second model, all matching, Macon assembled from mostly Atlanta made parts.

I posted here in hopes of finding a reference to parts which were salvaged from pistols which are beyond repair, just a screw washer, thumb piece of the cylinder pin, and loading lever catch. This piece of history appears to be 100% authentic, and it would be great to keep it that way.
 
Dixie actually has some original parts for Civil War guns.Not sure they'd be from S&B's [more likely Colt] but they'd at least be ''period'' replacements. Worth a phone call, anyways.
 
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