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Times are tough, my friends...

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by 1KPerDay, Feb 21, 2013.

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  1. 1KPerDay

    1KPerDay Member

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    I just paid $52 for 1000 CCI small rifle primers. :rolleyes:

    But they HAD some, gol-durnit. No .224 fmj pills or .223 dies, though. They were selling reman .223 for $350/500.
     
  2. Walkalong

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    Meh, shoot something else for the time being. :)
     
  3. gahunter12

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    WOW!! That's crazy!! I picked up 3,000 SRP last Saturday for $38/k. I felt cheated paying that. I have a LGS that has been able to keep both Lrg, and sml rifle, and Lrg pistol primers in stock. Not so much on sml pistol though. He told me back in late Oct. he had well over 100,000 primers in stock, and 100,000 on order to be delivered in Nov. Jerry the owner learned after 2008.
     
  4. ColtPythonElite

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    I wouldn't pay it for recreational shooting.
     
  5. splattergun

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    things are looking up

    Went to local Sportsman's Warehouse today. Things are looking better! They had some CCI LR primers and about 12 different powders and more bullets in stock.. The loaded ammo shelves are a little less nekkid, and they even had a few semi-auto pistols on the wall.

    Over all, their prices are still about the same for ammo, primer and powder. Red dot was 17.99 1 lb. 1000 CCI primers were 35.99
    Bagged lead shot is up to $49.00 for 25 lb, though. ugh, commodities

    They did not have much in any of the popular calibers. Plenty of bullets for .38, but none at all for 9mm. We're still not anywhere near adequate levels, but there is improvement.

    NO, I would not pay 52 bucks for primers. Not when they will soon be available at normal price.
     
  6. leadchucker

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    I'm headed to a local gun show on Saturday, in search of primers and powder at something less than robbery prices. Maybe it'll be better than a month ago.
     
  7. Lennyjoe

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    Our Sportsmanship warehouse's shelves are bare in regards to powder and primers. Even the place where I get my Winchester primers for $35 per thousand is getting slim.
     
  8. PCCUSNRET

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    Cabela's in Charleston had no primers or powder as of today. They had a few bullets but nothing for a 223. They had plenty of shotgun shells and 17 HMR but no 22's.
     
  9. David E

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    That's great news!

    What facts lead you to that pronouncement?

    Oh, and when, specifically, is "soon?"
     
  10. Bush Pilot

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    Let us know how that works out.
     
  11. ColtPythonElite

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    My local dealer has plenty of powder at $20 a pound. He was selling primers at $32 per 1k until a coup of weeks ago, but recently raised them to $40.
     
  12. gonefishin1

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    you guys are luckey i haven't found primers local in months i am down to less than 50 srp...
     
  13. Kachok

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    Yeah it is highway robbery out there, only one place locally has anything resembling normal prices and they stay pretty well sold out of anything I use, but I did luck up and snag a pound of Big Game the other day for "only" $23, still a little high, but nothing like the $30 I had to pay for a pound of 4350, cannot find my 165gr Game Kings ANYWHERE at any price so I am working on some different bullets and the 180gr Game Kings I have left. I am stocked up on primers, good for at leased five years, this mess HAS to be settled down by then, laws of economics state that they either have to up production to keep up with demand or someone else will get in the business to fill that gap for them.
     
  14. renomedia

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    The Sportsmen's Warehouse in Reno had a shipment of guns, ammo and reloading components come in last night. They opened their doors at 10 AM today and there must have been about 150 people in line before the store opened. They had a 1K limit on primers of any kind and the SPPs were gone at 10:05. No Varget, Bullseye, H-335, IMR 4198, or Unique. However they did have a few 8lb jugs of Blue Dot and IMR-4064. Most folks appeared to be looking for ammo. The bulk Rem-UMC 9mm & 45 ACP ammo were extremely popular. I didn't see any .223, but I'm sure there was some available.

    I snagged 8lbs of IMR-4064 and 1K LPP. The primers were 31.99/1K and the jug of IMR was 169.99. Not a bargain, but not gouging either.
     
  15. Kachok

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    LUCKY! I am out of 335 and IMR 4064, but I won't start freaking out until I run out or RL19, Longshot, IMR4350, RL22, and Big Game, those are my MUST HAVE powders especially the 4350, I can get at leased acceptable accuracy/performance with 4350 in all of my rifles though the 308 and 7mm-08 don't like it as much as the others.
     
  16. kyhunter

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    No problems with primers here. Ive bought 4K in the last 2 weeks. There were another 10K of spp srp and lrp at my lgs. No powder or bullets however
     
  17. 41 Mag

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    I went to the LGS the other day and it still looks like a grocery store just before a hurricane.

    I think they had a total of 10 or 11 bottles of powder some of which was pyrodex, no primers, and only a few rifles and handguns compared to what they normally have.

    I did manage to find the shotgun powders I was looking for though so it wasn't a total waste of a trip. I have to get some light field loads worked up for the grandson, so he can start practicing for dove season this year.
     
  18. JT-AR-MG42

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    Say 1k,

    Are you loading, or plan to, on a single stage press?

    I might be able to help out anybody who'll pay that for primers;)

    Seriously, let's hear back.

    JT
     
  19. hueyville

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    What I have found is most big box stores due to anyone being able to find them with a quick Google search or just the ability to find a shopping mall suffer the same stocking issues as the internet companies. Too easy access from a majority of users. The medium to small town real LGS type places seem to produce better if still spotty results. I have over 30 LGS that stock reloading supplies within an hour drive in any direction. May be closer to 50 stores. I know their habits and many of them know me as a regular. Not been a single item of any type that I have not been able to go pick up the day I want and walk out the door with at a fair price. Out of curiosity I have called local big box stores about one a week. Long hold times, no stock when you finally get through and no answers as to when they will as they are up to whims of corporate. My favorite LGS no longer answers phones. He checks and returns emails twice a day. 90% of the time what I need is on the shelf at one of three shops all within ten minutes of work. Don't wait till its all hands on deck to make friends with the supply officer. Build a relationship with a good LGS and you will seldom find yourself without at least a hot cup of coffee and some of what you need.
     
  20. XD 45acp

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    Primers ???? What is this "Primers" you speak of? I aint seen none round here in so long, I forget what they are.....:neener:
     
  21. kingmt

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    All of the Ma & Pa places I know there only friend is the dollar. I won't go to them unless I have to. As bad as I hate Walmart I'll go there but use the internet first.

    I bought at least 6 handguns from the LGS in till last shortage I bought a gun he couldn't get rid of because there was no ammo for 380 & everyone already had one. He had a box he snagged from Walmart to resale. He charge me $40 go the junk ammo. I bought it after telling make sure he got enough because that was the last thing is but from him. Wonder if he is still there?
     
  22. 1KPerDay

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    Be gentle, I'm still sore from the beating I took at the cash register. :D
    I haven't loaded .223 before... My only rifle experience is with .30-06. I have a single stage and a LCT.
    I got 1k 50 grain noslers coming from shooters pro shop for .12 ea, and some old H4895, so I'd appreciate any favorites with that combo. I am loading primarily for plinking and 3-gun; the local club recently changed the requirements and no longer allows bimetal/magnetic jackets so most of my meager .223 stash is off the menu.
     
  23. beatledog7

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    ECON 101. Prices will remain at market levels as long as we have a shred of a free market remaining. That means, unfortunately, as long as people will pay the price, the price will hold or even rise. If we stop buying, the price will fall in response to that perceived decrease in demand.

    If you were a retailer of widgets, and your livelihood depended on keeping your business open and making a profit, would you not raise your prices if your ability to get more widgets shrank? When you found customers willing and able to pay that higher price, would you lower that price?

    Fellow shooters/reloads, calling people out for responding to "marginally-free-market" forces, tossing out terms such as "gouging" and "highway robbery" to label this response, is not going to change anything. If you feel better for having gotten it off your chest...well, there's something to be said for feeling better, I suppose.

    If you don't like the price, and you have an alternative--perhaps, stop buying for a while--the slackening demand will force prices down. Retailers will not long hold prices at a level that keeps merchandise on their shelves instead of in your shopping basket.

    However, if you continually pay the asking price, it becomes the market price. That encourages retailers to nudge the price up yet another notch, to see just how high you'll go. That's not wrong--that's business.
     
  24. jack44

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    Lee been out of 243& 40 dies for so long!
     
  25. dickttx

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    +1 on this Beatledog7.
    People are in business to earn a living.
     
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