K-Romulus
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Just saw this on another board:
http://www.abc24.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=64BB8C0B-6DDD-4F7B-94B0-D8E8C7DCFEA3
http://www.abc24.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=64BB8C0B-6DDD-4F7B-94B0-D8E8C7DCFEA3
(TN) Mass Stabbing at Schnucks(?) (merged threads)
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Preacherman
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From CNN ( http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/21/supermarket.stabbing.ap/index.html ):
8 stabbed at grocery store, co-worker arrested
Friday, July 21, 2006; Posted: 1:07 p.m. EDT (17:07 GMT)
ARLINGTON, Tennessee (AP) -- Police say a grocery store employee stabbed eight co-workers Friday morning, critically injuring four before a witness tackled him.
The suspect, whose name wasn't immediately released, was arrested and then taken to a hospital after complaining of chest pains, Memphis Police Sgt. Vince Higgins said. Higgins said authorities hadn't determined a motive for the attack.
The attack started in the manager's office of the Schnucks supermarket in Arlington, on the outskirts of Memphis, then spilled out into the store, Higgins said.
By the time the suspect was tackled, six women and two men were bleeding from stab wounds, he said. Police said two large kitchen knives used in the attack were found at the scene.
The ages of the victims were not immediately released. Higgins and a company spokeswoman said all the victims were employees of the store.
Four were in critical condition at area hospitals, Higgins said.
"Our first priority is the customers and associates," said Schnucks Markets Inc. spokeswoman Lori Willis said. She said officials from the St. Louis-based company were on their way to the scene.
8 stabbed at grocery store, co-worker arrested
Friday, July 21, 2006; Posted: 1:07 p.m. EDT (17:07 GMT)
ARLINGTON, Tennessee (AP) -- Police say a grocery store employee stabbed eight co-workers Friday morning, critically injuring four before a witness tackled him.
The suspect, whose name wasn't immediately released, was arrested and then taken to a hospital after complaining of chest pains, Memphis Police Sgt. Vince Higgins said. Higgins said authorities hadn't determined a motive for the attack.
The attack started in the manager's office of the Schnucks supermarket in Arlington, on the outskirts of Memphis, then spilled out into the store, Higgins said.
By the time the suspect was tackled, six women and two men were bleeding from stab wounds, he said. Police said two large kitchen knives used in the attack were found at the scene.
The ages of the victims were not immediately released. Higgins and a company spokeswoman said all the victims were employees of the store.
Four were in critical condition at area hospitals, Higgins said.
"Our first priority is the customers and associates," said Schnucks Markets Inc. spokeswoman Lori Willis said. She said officials from the St. Louis-based company were on their way to the scene.
Thefabulousfink
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So was the BG tackled or held at gunpoint?
I do like how the first article doen't make a big deal over the citizen getting a gun to protect people.
I do like how the first article doen't make a big deal over the citizen getting a gun to protect people.
ATAShooter
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See, 35 cents ( a bullet ) could have stopped this. One might have got cut, but he could have been dropped. long live CCW. Carry everywhere, you never know.
Father Knows Best
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Wow. I know that store well.
As many of you know, my location used to be listed as "Memphis, TN." Actually, I lived in Lakeland. The Schnuck's where this happened is new (opened in the last year), and is less than 2 miles from my old house. I moved the family to Minnesota just six weeks ago. We used to shop at that Schnuck's all the time until we moved.
I called my wife to tell her about this story, and she just flipped. Maybe now she'll actually start carrying the 642 I bought her a year ago.
As many of you know, my location used to be listed as "Memphis, TN." Actually, I lived in Lakeland. The Schnuck's where this happened is new (opened in the last year), and is less than 2 miles from my old house. I moved the family to Minnesota just six weeks ago. We used to shop at that Schnuck's all the time until we moved.
I called my wife to tell her about this story, and she just flipped. Maybe now she'll actually start carrying the 642 I bought her a year ago.
nearthebeach
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8 people stabbed?
was this one of them semi-automatic butcher knives?
Seriously, in England they recently had an amnesty program for folks to turn in their sharp knives.
I think we need to ban these dangerous assault knives.
was this one of them semi-automatic butcher knives?
Seriously, in England they recently had an amnesty program for folks to turn in their sharp knives.
I think we need to ban these dangerous assault knives.
romma
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I Wonder
What Schnuckies carry policy is? If any... I could swear there is an old thread about this somewhere..
What Schnuckies carry policy is? If any... I could swear there is an old thread about this somewhere..
NineseveN
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Interesting....to echo the idea, carry everywhere, you never know...that's the point.
Father Knows Best
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The local paper (www.commercialappeal.com) is reporting that the attacker was a former employee who was recently fired. He was dropped off by a family member, and proceeded to enter the manager's office and stab a couple of people there. They say he was "subdued in the parking lot" by a man who works in a nearby store.
The Schnuck's is part of a strip mall. The adjoining stores, to the best of my recollection, are a Blockbuster Video, a cell phone store (Verizon?), a couple of hair salons, and perhaps a few other things. A KFC and a bank are in separate buildings in the parking lot.
It's a nice area. The surrounding neighborhoods are middle class to upscale. It has a county club right behind it, and a public golf course across the street. The Wofchase Galleria mall is next door (on the other side of I-40).
Any time, any where....
The Schnuck's is part of a strip mall. The adjoining stores, to the best of my recollection, are a Blockbuster Video, a cell phone store (Verizon?), a couple of hair salons, and perhaps a few other things. A KFC and a bank are in separate buildings in the parking lot.
It's a nice area. The surrounding neighborhoods are middle class to upscale. It has a county club right behind it, and a public golf course across the street. The Wofchase Galleria mall is next door (on the other side of I-40).
Any time, any where....
romma
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The Problem
With nice areas is, Not so nice people can and usually migrate there.
With nice areas is, Not so nice people can and usually migrate there.
Erebus
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If he was actually shot by a citizen I wouldn't be surprised if said citizen's involvement was "overlooked" by the MSM. It's alot easier to tackle someone who isn't wielding a knife wildly cause he has a gun pointed at him.
They will likely treat the tackler as a brave selfless hero and pretend the guy with the gun doesn't exist.
They will likely treat the tackler as a brave selfless hero and pretend the guy with the gun doesn't exist.
rchernandez
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Here's a link to a satellite pic of the location! For those who need photos for everything
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...015,-89.761648&spn=0.004033,0.010439&t=k&om=1
I live 3 miles south of this location...can never be too careful. Remember situational awareness, have to be constantly vigilant! From BG's entering the premises to workers going "postal"...back in the Philippines, these incidents were described as someone "running amok" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amok) often armed with sharp objects...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...015,-89.761648&spn=0.004033,0.010439&t=k&om=1
I live 3 miles south of this location...can never be too careful. Remember situational awareness, have to be constantly vigilant! From BG's entering the premises to workers going "postal"...back in the Philippines, these incidents were described as someone "running amok" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amok) often armed with sharp objects...
bogie
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Couldn't possibly happen. Schnucks' markets are nice safe gun free zones in Missouri.
Armed citizen in Memphis stops massacre
One prepared individual stepped up and halted a violent attack on innocent people. My hat is off to this guy. I might drive over next week and take him out for a beer.
http://wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5180897
MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) - A grocery store employee attacked eight co-workers with knives Friday, seriously injuring five before a witness pulled a gun and stopped him, police said.
The 21-year-old suspect, Elartrice Ingram, was arrested and taken to a hospital complaining of chest pains, Memphis Police Sgt. Vince Higgins said. The attack apparently stemmed from a work dispute, police said. Ingram was charged with nine counts of Criminal Attempt Felony to wit First Degree Murder.
Five victims, one in critical condition, were admitted to the Regional Medical Center, the main trauma hospital for the Memphis area. Three were less badly hurt and treated at another hospital.
The attacker, chasing one victim into the store's parking lot, was subdued by Chris Cope, manager of a financial services office in the same small shopping center, Higgins said.
Cope said he grabbed a 9mm semiautomatic pistol from his pickup truck when he saw the attacker chasing the victim "like something in a serial killer movie."
"When he turned around and saw my pistol, he threw the knife away, put his hands up and got on the ground," Cope told The Associated Press. "He saw my gun and that was pretty much it."
Police arrived within minutes and took the attacker into custody.
"He just kept saying, 'I'm insane. I wish I was never born' and that kind of stuff," Cope said.
The attack started in an employee area of the Schnucks supermarket on the outskirts of Memphis and no customers were involved, Higgins said.
Police said two large kitchen knives used in the attack were found at the scene.
Witness Frank Rector said the attacker held a knife high in a stabbing position as he chased a victim into the parking lot. The victim, Rector said, "was circling, trying to get away from him."
The ages and names of the victims were not immediately released. A company spokeswoman said all the victims were employees of the store.
"Our first priority is the customers and associates," said Schnucks Markets Inc. spokeswoman Lori Willis. She said officials from the St. Louis-based company were on their way to the scene.
Higgins said police were pulling into the parking lot as Cope was putting the attacker down.
"We commend him," Higgins said. "But we don't encourage people to take that kind of risk. He could have been hurt."
(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
One prepared individual stepped up and halted a violent attack on innocent people. My hat is off to this guy. I might drive over next week and take him out for a beer.
http://wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5180897
MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) - A grocery store employee attacked eight co-workers with knives Friday, seriously injuring five before a witness pulled a gun and stopped him, police said.
The 21-year-old suspect, Elartrice Ingram, was arrested and taken to a hospital complaining of chest pains, Memphis Police Sgt. Vince Higgins said. The attack apparently stemmed from a work dispute, police said. Ingram was charged with nine counts of Criminal Attempt Felony to wit First Degree Murder.
Five victims, one in critical condition, were admitted to the Regional Medical Center, the main trauma hospital for the Memphis area. Three were less badly hurt and treated at another hospital.
The attacker, chasing one victim into the store's parking lot, was subdued by Chris Cope, manager of a financial services office in the same small shopping center, Higgins said.
Cope said he grabbed a 9mm semiautomatic pistol from his pickup truck when he saw the attacker chasing the victim "like something in a serial killer movie."
"When he turned around and saw my pistol, he threw the knife away, put his hands up and got on the ground," Cope told The Associated Press. "He saw my gun and that was pretty much it."
Police arrived within minutes and took the attacker into custody.
"He just kept saying, 'I'm insane. I wish I was never born' and that kind of stuff," Cope said.
The attack started in an employee area of the Schnucks supermarket on the outskirts of Memphis and no customers were involved, Higgins said.
Police said two large kitchen knives used in the attack were found at the scene.
Witness Frank Rector said the attacker held a knife high in a stabbing position as he chased a victim into the parking lot. The victim, Rector said, "was circling, trying to get away from him."
The ages and names of the victims were not immediately released. A company spokeswoman said all the victims were employees of the store.
"Our first priority is the customers and associates," said Schnucks Markets Inc. spokeswoman Lori Willis. She said officials from the St. Louis-based company were on their way to the scene.
Higgins said police were pulling into the parking lot as Cope was putting the attacker down.
"We commend him," Higgins said. "But we don't encourage people to take that kind of risk. He could have been hurt."
(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
Jim March
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VERY interesting.
An earlier mainstream media version of this story ommitted the gun and claimed Cope "tackled him".
An earlier mainstream media version of this story ommitted the gun and claimed Cope "tackled him".
Pilgrim
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No story with a happy ending like this would be complete without the obligatory silly statement from a police spokesman.
He was going to get hurt, taking a gun to a knife fight?
Pilgrim
Gordon Fink
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Luckily for Mr. Cope, this didn’t turn into a suicide-by-CCW incident.
~G. Fink
guys not that insane if dropped the knife and surrendered, guess he's been watching too much TV and figured it would be a good defense, sounds like he knew what he was doing and understood the consequences of his actions, let's see how it plays out in court.
interesting to see how the media portrays this, guess they can't scare people to stay in there houses and watch comercials when everyone realizes they have the right to self defense, and that thugs and wackos need to be put away or put down, not let loose on the streets 'cause they're really good people that are putting their life back together.
interesting to see how the media portrays this, guess they can't scare people to stay in there houses and watch comercials when everyone realizes they have the right to self defense, and that thugs and wackos need to be put away or put down, not let loose on the streets 'cause they're really good people that are putting their life back together.
Tropical Z
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I would have guessed that the guy who lost it worked for Kroger.
WRONG STORE--WRONG PRICE!!!
DMK
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If he didn't take the risk, the person being chased would have certainly gotten hurt worse.
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"We commend him," Higgins said. "But we don't encourage people to take that kind of risk. He could have been hurt"
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Yeah, right. Only LEO's can/should be the only one's that can stop a murder in progress. .
I suppose if Mr. Higgin's home were to catch on fire, he would make no effort to try to stop or contain the situation. Rather, he would calmly wait for the firemen to come to his rescue. Because he knows, the firemen will tell him when they arrive "But we don't encourage people to take that kind of risk. He could have been hurt" 
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Yeah, right.
Only LEO's can/should be the only one's that can stop a murder in progress. .I suppose if Mr. Higgin's home were to catch on fire, he would make no effort to try to stop or contain the situation. Rather, he would calmly wait for the firemen to come to his rescue. Because he knows, the firemen will tell him when they arrive "But we don't encourage people to take that kind of risk. He could have been hurt"
Deaf Smith
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"We commend him," Higgins said. "But we don't encourage people to take that kind of risk. He could have been hurt" You can be hurt walking across the street to.
It's not weither you can get hurt or not that matters, it's weither you can make a difference and help the innocent. We all die one day, like it or not. That man took the chance to help others and for that, dead or alive, it was worth it.
It seems the manager is more inclined to be one of the sheep than one of the lions.
It's not weither you can get hurt or not that matters, it's weither you can make a difference and help the innocent. We all die one day, like it or not. That man took the chance to help others and for that, dead or alive, it was worth it.
It seems the manager is more inclined to be one of the sheep than one of the lions.
Lupinus
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Yeah or he could have not used the tools at his disposal to stop this attack and allowed the sheep to be slaughtered.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
As said typical ruining a perfectly happy story with a redicules police comment
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