FIVETWOSEVEN
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How do you carry it? Hammer cocked back on a loaded chamber? (cond. 1) Hammer down on a loaded chamber? (cond. 2) Or with an empty chamber? (cond. 3)
To those that carry a Tokarev for Self defense
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Probie9
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I voted for Condition 2, but the hammer is not " down" it is on the half cock and the safety is on. I carry mine around the farm not necessarily concealed, but I like to have it ready.
JHK94
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I'm kind of curious about that too. I haven't carried my T-33 much. Its usually sitting in my office desk drawer, in Cond. 3.
JohnhenrySTL
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You all seem to know more than me about Tokorevs. I just bought a couple of Eastern European Pistols. My cz 82 seems to work flawlesly. I can shoot it better than my thousand dollar sig. My Polish Tokorev, which I pulled out of the box and somewhat wiped and half way cleaned, jammed every 3rd or fourth shot. I didn't clean it perfectly, because I hadn't planned on shooting it. Somebody happen to have ammo and gave me a box, while I was at the range. It would eject the spent casing, then I would have to gently tap the slide to chamber the next round.
I Like shooting it, its got a decent trigger, and shoots a cool round. However the jamming issue is bothering the hell out of me. I was shooting cheap albanian surplus ammo. I took it home, took it apart and cleaned like I never have cleaned a gun. The person who gave me the ammo told me mine looked like a non-issue, that had never been fired. Why did it jamm so bad? Are these guns capable of being reliable? And what kind of Ammo would work and be safe? (Ive herd they cant handle some kind of submachine amm0). I love shooting, but am new to surplus pistols. I would be love any kind of advise. Ive never had a gun jamm so much, Ive put thousands of 40s through my sig.
I Like shooting it, its got a decent trigger, and shoots a cool round. However the jamming issue is bothering the hell out of me. I was shooting cheap albanian surplus ammo. I took it home, took it apart and cleaned like I never have cleaned a gun. The person who gave me the ammo told me mine looked like a non-issue, that had never been fired. Why did it jamm so bad? Are these guns capable of being reliable? And what kind of Ammo would work and be safe? (Ive herd they cant handle some kind of submachine amm0). I love shooting, but am new to surplus pistols. I would be love any kind of advise. Ive never had a gun jamm so much, Ive put thousands of 40s through my sig.
Before I got my Yugo M-57's, I carried my Tok with one in the chamber on half cock. It was easy to fully cock during the draw after some practice.
The M-57 thumb safety is definite and is engaged and disengaged like a 1911, so I have started using that.
I've shot over 55,000 rounds through one of my Toks with no FTF or FTE. It always went bang when I pulled the trigger on a chambered round. I consider the pistol to be extremely reliable.
The M-57 thumb safety is definite and is engaged and disengaged like a 1911, so I have started using that.
I've shot over 55,000 rounds through one of my Toks with no FTF or FTE. It always went bang when I pulled the trigger on a chambered round. I consider the pistol to be extremely reliable.
JohnhenrySTL
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What type of ammo did you use? And what hollow points were the most Reliable?
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Shadow 7D
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bought a yugo (zastava) m88, disapointed that they did away with the half cock, acutally thinking of changing out the hammer group if I carry it. As fo ammo, I bought a few cases of the discounted polish stuff from century, note to the wise, I paid for my C&R by getting the dealer price on that, actually, more than paid for it. No FTF, FTE, actually, every round I've fed has fired, that said, I didn't go and check to see if the brass was cracked or not, frankly don't care, shoots the same and isn't reloadable.
MICHAEL T
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say carry in condition 2 But if you post caring a 1911 that way you are hung out to dry. Both required lowering hammer and thumbing cocking bit of double standered If so unsafe to lower a 1911 hammer Why is safe to lower this one. Its design is really close to a 1911.
WardenWolf
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I normally store my Tokarev in Condition 2 (hammer on half-cock), but if I were to carry it regularly, I'd carry it Condition 1. I have no real safety concerns about carrying it as such, particularly since the half-cock lugs provide an extra degree of safety should something somehow manage to defeat the primary cocking lugs. I'm fully confident it cannot fire without the trigger being pulled. It can also be safely decocked to the half-cock position by placing one's thumb behind the rear sight to ensure the hammer cannot fully drop.
mcdonl
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Michael T... I do not have a 1911, and I have a Norinco 9mm version of the TT-33... but I will give my opinion on this
I would trust the design and safety on the 1911... I do not trust something that was added to the gun after it was imported.
The Tok has a MUCH stronger half cock notch. There isn't any way I can see that it would slip out of that notch. I've seen statements that the Russians dropped it off the roof of a 3 story building to try and get it to fire from half cock. It didn't happen. If you are worried about decocking it, just pull the mag and rack the slide. I personally do not see any need for this, but to each his own.
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