Total Cook County Gun Ban Clears First Hurdle

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Rabid gun-grabbers on the Cook County Board came one step closer last week to instituting a total ban on firearm ownership in the county – except for police and military personnel.

Introduced by Commissioner William Beavers, the so-called “Safe Streets/Weapons Registration Ordinance” appears on the surface to be some sort of gun registration scheme. However, closer examination reveals that the only people who could comply with the registration requirements would be Chicago residents who had previously registered their guns with the city. Everyone else in Cook County would have to turn in their guns to the police. The ordinance would certainly ban all handguns as the ordinance disallows registration of handguns that do not have a “chamber load” indicator. Few, if any, handguns could comply with this requirement, so they would have to be surrendered to the police.

The full text of Beavers’ proposed ordinance may be found here . http://www.isra.org/cook_county/12042007-beavers-registration-290841.html To learn more about William Beavers, click this link: http://www.co.cook.il.us/district04...12042007-beavers-registration-290841.html.htm .

William Beavers is an enemy to our Constitution and an enemy to all freedom-loving people of the United States. Call him at (312) 603-2065 and also call his other office at (773) 731-1515 and tell them exactly what you think of Beavers and his plan to disarm law-abiding citizens.

Another gun-hater on the Cook County Board is Larry Suffredin. Suffredin has fielded a proposed ordinance that would shut down all gun shops in the county. You may read about that ordinance by clicking here. http://www.isra.org/cook_county/12042007-suffredin-290839.html

Larry Suffredin is an enemy to our Constitution and an enemy to all freedom-loving people of the United States. For full information on Larry Suffredin, click this link: http://www.co.cook.il.us/district13.htm . Call Suffredin at 847-864-1209 and 312-603-6383 and tell them exactly what you think of Larry Suffredin’s plan to punish law-abiding gun owners.

Even if you don’t live in Cook County, or even if you don’t live in Illinois for that matter, call anyway. Freedom is at stake here.
In addition to calling these gun-hating stooges, please do the following:

1. Post this alert to any and all Internet bulletin boards of which you are a member.

2. Send this alert to all your gun owning friends and ask them to call Beavers and Suffredin too!

Remember – preservation of our 2nd Amendment rights is a cultural imperative. Gun control is a disease; you are the cure!
 
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Another option to consider is to call some legislators in the rest of the state, specificly the ones that are pro-2A, and have them start hashing out a state pre-emption on firearms. If the Cook county ban passes, it's going to take a pre-emption to overturn it. It worked in Ohio, much to Toledo, Cinci, and Columbus' dismay.
 
The ordinance would certainly ban all handguns as the ordinance disallows registration of handguns that do not have a “chamber load” indicator. Few, if any, handguns could comply with this requirement, so they would have to be surrendered to the police.
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Not saying the ban is right, but what does that mean? 3 of my 4 pistols have loaded chamber indicators. It's not exactly rare.
 
Not saying the ban is right, but what does that mean? 3 of my 4 pistols have loaded chamber indicators. It's not exactly rare.
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(c) Handguns, except:

(1) Those validly registered to a current owner in the County prior to the effective date of this Ordinance, and which contain each of the following:

(i) A safety mechanism to hinder the use of the handgun by unauthorized users. Such devices shall include, but shall not be limited to, trigger locks, combination handle locks, and solenoid use-limitation devices; and,

(ii) A load indicator device that provides reasonable warning to potential users such that even users unfamiliar with the weapon would be forewarned and would understand the nature of the warning;

Revolvers don't have "loaded indicator devices." A handful of handguns have internal locks (look at the clearly stated reference to "which contain" and "solenoid use-limitation devices," so interpret as an integral part - not removable). And "unfamiliar users" - lowest common denominator - as in Lakefront Liberals who only see guns on TV and in movies.

Larry Suffredin couldn't tell if a handgun was unloaded or not, even if it was detail stripped...
 
my last two 1911's had those chamber loaded indicators
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Or did they have prominent extractors? Would a 8-year-old, a teenager, or a grandmother know it was loaded? How about a gangbanger (who has some familiarity with handguns) or a typical Chicago cop (I've talked to many who didn't even know who the manufacturer of their duty piece was without looking!)?

The infamous RastaNarc didn't know his was loaded, even though he was the only professional in the room at the time...neither did that lady LEO who passed a loaded pistol around while speaking to a grammar school class a few years ago... (I forget where - DC maybe?)
 
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Lugers have "Geladen" marked on their loaded chamber indicators. Not that that would help unless everyone could read german. And these days they'd demand that one side read loaded in English and the other in Spanish no doubt.
 
such that even users unfamiliar with the weapon would be forewarned and would understand the nature of the warning
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Classic! So people that know little about firearms or that weapon are going to know what some tiny little tab at a slightly different angle near the chamber means, are going to know to look for it, and are going to somehow base how they handle the firearm on that? :rolleyes:
Having people unfamiliar with a particular weapon relying on features of that weapon for thier safety is just foolishness. Wouldn't the proper procedure be to point it in a safe direction and open the action anyways?! If unloading it, after the magazine is removed.

Anyone can change or disable features on a firearm, other firearms will not have those features, such as illegal ones encounted in the field. In fact people are known to disable mag disconnects, and features like the grip safety on a 1911. Relying on a feature of a weapon you know nothing about is just foolish. Shouldn't anyone encountering a firearm treat it as if it is loaded until they prove to themselves it is not?
What idiot would expect that law to make anyone safer?

Oh right it is not about safety, it is about disarmament.
 
Sec. 58-137. ...

c) Each registrant shall keep any firearm in his possession unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock or similar device, unless such firearm is in his possession at his place of residence or business or while being used for lawful recreational purposes within the County; provided, this paragraph shall not apply to law enforcement personnel nor security personnel, both as defined in Section 58-130.5, while in the course of their employment.
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I'm not a lawyer but if the outcome of Heller v. DC is to invalidate the District's requirement that firearms kept at home must be disassembled--i.e. made unusable for self defense--my guess is that Cook County would have a hard time defending at least this part in federal court.
 
Any weapon that the President, the Board, or the Sheriff defines by regulation as an assault weapon because the design or operation of such weapon is inappropriate for lawful use.
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??????

Essentially , by their own views or interpretations , they could pretty much ban anything. I was unaware that gun manufacturers designed guns for a less than lawful use.

Yup , this isn't something good for gun owners . I may not live there , but the peoples that do, have my support , however I can lend it .

As a side note , my wife deals with Crook county (yes they call it that in her business) and says they are one of the worst local gov entities she has to work with . Go figure .
 
I think one solution to this problem is for all gun manufacturers and dealers to cease all sales of firearms, parts and accessories to ANY government entity in Cook County.

Let the Chicago PD carry rubber mallets. If anything, it'll allow them to get into SLIGHTLY less trouble than usual.
 
Will this have the same force of law as the Chicago handgun ban? IIRC it was only good for a couple days in the city jail.
 
In other news today:

"Study: Cook criminal justice system overwhelmed"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ebdec14,0,4247597.story?coll=chi_tab01_layout

Among the things recommended (i.e. tax and spend more), this good recommendation:

"It also recommends that legislators be required to estimate the cost of any new crime legislation and that a new, independent commission help the Cook County Board make criminal justice budgeting decisions."

I wonder if the county is going to make an estimate on the cost of enforcing this legislation. If they go and create a few hundred thousand lawbreakers, the cost will be billion$.
 
A friend who repo'ed cars in Chicago for many years once told me that fairly good quality zipp guns (Machine shop made, went off when triggered and didn't blow up) were sold on the street for 50 bucks with no questions asked and no shortage of supply.
Even after he got a decent revolver he'd carry a couple of these as disposable untraceable throwaways in case he had to shoot someone in self defense in the course of his work.Luckily that never came to pass.

No goblin need ever worry about a shortage of cheap and untraceable hardware in Chicago.
I doubt they have to use zipp guns at all these days since pretty good MAC10 clones have shown up at various times with evidence of fair quality workmanship by machinists using company time to pick up an extra buck to feed their meth habit.
 
I'm not a lawyer but if the outcome of Heller v. DC is to invalidate the District's requirement that firearms kept at home must be disassembled--i.e. made unusable for self defense--my guess is that Cook County would have a hard time defending at least this part in federal court.
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This is the most complete gun ban in the country, if I am reading it right. The dissassembly provisions would apply to the grandfathered firearms that are registered in Cook County. Only registered firearms would be allowed. In D.C., in theory you can still buy and certain longarms. If my parsing of the proposed ordnance below is correct, no new firearms_of any kind_can be bought or possessed.

No registration certificate shall be issued for any of the following types of firearms:

(a) Sawed-off shotgun, machine gun, or short-barreled rifle; [comment-already banned in Illinois anyway]

(b) Firearms other than handguns, owned or possessed by any person in the County prior to the effective date of this Ordinance which are not validly registered prior to the effective date of this Ordinance;



(c) Handguns, except:



(1) Those validly registered to a current owner in the County prior to the effective date of this Ordinance, and which contain each of the following:



(i) A safety mechanism to hinder the use of the handgun by unauthorized users. Such devices shall include, but shall not be limited to, trigger locks, combination handle locks, and solenoid use-limitation devices; and,



(ii) A load indicator device that provides reasonable warning to potential users such that even users unfamiliar with the weapon would be forewarned and would understand the nature of the warning;



(2) Those owned by peace officers who are residents of the County,



(3) Those owned by security personnel,



(4) Those owned by private detective agencies licensed by the State of Illinois;

Am I reading this right? Kind of seems hard to believe.
 
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