Tumblers

[Schutzen]

Your problem may not be your tumbler. Have you checked you electrical supply? Is the outlet your using supplying 120V+ to your tumbler? Does your voltage drop when a large electrical load kicks in? (furnace starting, water heater cycling, wife using oven, or excessive load on the 120V circuit you are using for your tumbler) Check your electrical supply with a VOM and verify you have 120V+.

 

[Maj Dad]

Power Supply's O.K.

No voltage fluctuations, it is definitely the motor. It spins fine when turned over & flywheel is flipped, and runs fine for 30-40 seconds, then starts waning & waxing rpms. Like I said Ranger, my Lortone Tumbler (not vibratory) is over 30 years with me (& I got it second had) and runs fine. I think it's just me - my magnetic personality causes flukkiations in the armature field's plasmanetics, resulting in premature baldness, fallen arches and failure to thrive in vibrating electrical devices... Possible...

 

[qajaq59]

Maj Dad.... It sounds like your motor got OLD like me because our systems are the same.

 

[Maj Dad]

Qajaq59, you have centered the nail squarely - and nailed us

 

[Deavis]

Concrete mixer, just buy a small one and learn to love the ability to tumble 15-20k of cases at a time. Sure it is noisy, makes your neighbors wonder, and throws off dust but who cares? You are a man, and manly men have big tumblers.

One thing, if you buy a cement mixer have someone with a mill groove the center of the plate locating plate to allow you to move the position cutouts. You'll find that you won't be able to get the right angle for the best tumbling action on smaller cases with the stock plate but if you rotate it by 60 degrees, you'll be able to tumble big and small at an angle that really gets a nice action on the brass and media.

 

[ranger335v]

"...magnetic personality causes flukkiations in the armature field's plasmanetics,..."

Ah. Perhaps they will sell you a counter rotating multihexacomplicator to offset the plasmanetic's non-linera EMF fields? That should cancel the magnahelix effect and restore things to a massive static state.

Good luck! (Yeah, I used to do that stuff too, long ago in another life!)

 

[Radaray]

"Tumblers all use inexpensive electric exhaust fan motors for baths and stove hoods. When the bearing dry they seize the shafts but a few drops of oil fixes that. If they stay on without turning for too long they will burn the windings but the whole motor can be replaced for maybe $15. Viberation can work mounting and frame screws loose or break electrical connections, both are quite easy to fix. I often wonder how many vib tumblers are tossed for new ones when they are so easily repaired. "

Where are you guys buying these motors for $12-$15? I've been looking for replacement motors since my first Midway tumbler motor burned up. I agree with the Major~~~ they fail prematurely, and probably for the reasons he has stated.

I do have a Lyman 1200 which I have used now for about 3 years, and it is still going strong. But I don't trust any of them anymore.

As for very many of them being tossed that could be repaired~~~I'm a retired radar technician and I know what a cooked field winding looks (and smells) like. I'm not into motor rewinding.

I had a vibrating unit once several years ago that I gave away (wish I had it back) that used a standard motor but rectified the incoming AC to cause the motor to pulsate. It worked fine, but had a very small bucket. I gave it to a woman that wanted to use it to polish jewery. I've never heard that it quit on her.

 

[qajaq59]

Does anyone even make a tumbler that actually tumblers anymore? Besides the cement mixer ones for doing 5,000 cases at a time. My guess is they'd last a lot longer than the vibrator type.

 

[Maj Dad]

Lortone

Bring $$$.

http://www.lortone.com/

(Thumler's, too - http://www.amazon.com/Thumlers-Tumb...ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1256495756&sr=8-3 )

 

[qajaq59]

Maj Dad, that certainly answered that question. lol

 

[Maj Dad]

Journal of Irreproducible Results

Ranger, you may want to further elaborate these phenomena with the JIR:
http://www.jir.com/
As a long-time fan and off & on subscriber, I can attest that there is no disturbance in the farce...
(I just got This Book Warps Space and Time and it is the perfect gift for my intellekchul chilluns and friends, after I read it ;-)

 

[the foot]

My Lyman quit after 18 years. I bought another Lyman for the same price I paid for the first one. I am a satisfied customer.

 

[jjohnson]

qajaq59 - Thumbler's

Yeah, pretty sure Thumbler's still makes tumblers that tumble instead of vibrate.

On the vibratory types, I've burned out two of the big Lyman 2500s, am running a third one now, and burned out a Berry's, but at least that's still on warranty, so I'm sending it back.

I reload 10-12000 rounds a year, and let them run overnight sometimes.

 

[Maj Dad]

Tumbler Update

Got my replacement motor for the CV-500 from Midway this week; three screws in the tub, four nuts on the motor, and one set screw on the shaft weight/fan, and it's off & vibrating. $48 with shipping, and it ought to last another few years ( ) before I replace it, too. At least they will sell you a replacement - I don't mind living with fallibility if I can overcome it reasonably.

I will be a Dillon user and customer until one of us craps out...

 

[billsnogo]

Wow, I think I finally have found a use for the HF cement mixer I bought a few years ago and never used