Two dead in North Dallas shootout -home invasion gone bad?
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I'd say that was a home invasion gone good, if there is such a thing.
A home invasion gone bad is like the one that happened here a few weeks ago. Four armed men came through the front door of a house, tied up the residents. A 20ish male resident made a break for it, didn't get to the back door before he was fatally wounded. Rest of the family got out the front door to safety while the BG's weren't watching.
All four have been arrested and are awaiting trial.
A home invasion gone bad is like the one that happened here a few weeks ago. Four armed men came through the front door of a house, tied up the residents. A 20ish male resident made a break for it, didn't get to the back door before he was fatally wounded. Rest of the family got out the front door to safety while the BG's weren't watching.
All four have been arrested and are awaiting trial.
Poohgyrr
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Darwin was right. I'll let my Sweetheart (wife) know about this. She's from TX and her Mom still lives there.
Best wishes to the Good Guy and Family.
Best wishes to the Good Guy and Family.
jrhines
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Wake up & smell the coffee...
From the newspaper-
Mike Tennis, 24, who was in the next-door condominium when the shooting occurred, said he was rattled by the gunbattle at what he thought was a secure community in a relatively safe neighborhood.
"They said it was a break-in," Mr. Tennis said. "I'm planning to move to another section of the complex. I would never have moved here if I thought this could happen. It's a beautiful area. It just proves this can happen anywhere."
Glad to have Mike aboard planet Earth!...
J.Rhines
Seneca "It can happen here", Md
From the newspaper-
Mike Tennis, 24, who was in the next-door condominium when the shooting occurred, said he was rattled by the gunbattle at what he thought was a secure community in a relatively safe neighborhood.
"They said it was a break-in," Mr. Tennis said. "I'm planning to move to another section of the complex. I would never have moved here if I thought this could happen. It's a beautiful area. It just proves this can happen anywhere."
Glad to have Mike aboard planet Earth!...
J.Rhines
Seneca "It can happen here", Md
Joe Demko
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All well and good and happy if everything is exactly as reported with no "rest of the story." However...it is my understanding that most home invasions aren't simply random events. The invaders choose their targets deliberately because there is something in that home they desire. Thus, the victims of home invasions are not infrequently rather unsavory characters themselves. They get invaded because they have (or are suspected to have) large amounts of cash or drugs or other valuables on hand. Of course, even criminals have a right to self-defense from other criminals. Not saying this guy is dirty, mind you, I'm just curious about the possible details.
seeker_two
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Heh... my dad used to live there. The ladies in the leasing office are very attractive, in case anybody is wondering.
I find it very odd that this type of event would happen in that complex. I know crime happens everywhere, but that complex is pretty close to the last place I would choose to go kicking in doors. Access is rather heavily controlled, and there is really only one way to get in or out, so escape would not be easy. I'm with Golgo-13 on this one. They knew their target. Drugs are a possibility, however, considering the types of people I met while my dad lived there, I would say that some other type of valuable item is more likely, but it's pure speculation.
I find it very odd that this type of event would happen in that complex. I know crime happens everywhere, but that complex is pretty close to the last place I would choose to go kicking in doors. Access is rather heavily controlled, and there is really only one way to get in or out, so escape would not be easy. I'm with Golgo-13 on this one. They knew their target. Drugs are a possibility, however, considering the types of people I met while my dad lived there, I would say that some other type of valuable item is more likely, but it's pure speculation.
spacemanspiff
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so moving to another section of the complex is going to make Mr Tennis safer from crime? or moving away from the armed resident will make him safer from an armed citizen as a neighbor?
dont tell me someone let one of the sheeple move into texas....
Poohgyrr
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Around here, home invasions often involve a relatively good decent family who have a kid, cousin, or what have you family member that is a thug.
This thug has inside knowledge and knows they have something valuable. He recruits other thugs to do the actual home invasion while he sits in the get away car outside. These invasions get pretty nasty at times and it may be up to you to stop it cold to save your family. A couple have been stopped by the Cops because a smart family member was able to run to a neighbors for help right when the whole thing started.
This thug has inside knowledge and knows they have something valuable. He recruits other thugs to do the actual home invasion while he sits in the get away car outside. These invasions get pretty nasty at times and it may be up to you to stop it cold to save your family. A couple have been stopped by the Cops because a smart family member was able to run to a neighbors for help right when the whole thing started.
WilderBill
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I live in the DFW Metroplex (where this shooting happened) and today and yesterday, my wife and I spent approximately 4 to 5 combined hours in cars driving to and from work with the radios on.
She also listens to the radio at work and this morning she watched the TV news as she got ready for work.
When I asked her if she had heard about this shooting this evening, she said she hadn't. I haven't heard a peep either, other than on this forum.
So, here's my question. A few years back, some worthless scum beat his grandparents with a baseball bat, killing his grandmother and leaving his grandfather for dead. He was convicted and is scheduled to assume room temperature in a day or two. Why is his execution news for a week before the expiration date while two home invaders given the permanent dirt nap by a citizen doesn't even rate a mention on local radio--and nothing on TV news after the "live broadcast?"
Very irritating...
She also listens to the radio at work and this morning she watched the TV news as she got ready for work.
When I asked her if she had heard about this shooting this evening, she said she hadn't. I haven't heard a peep either, other than on this forum.
So, here's my question. A few years back, some worthless scum beat his grandparents with a baseball bat, killing his grandmother and leaving his grandfather for dead. He was convicted and is scheduled to assume room temperature in a day or two. Why is his execution news for a week before the expiration date while two home invaders given the permanent dirt nap by a citizen doesn't even rate a mention on local radio--and nothing on TV news after the "live broadcast?"
Very irritating...
Sylvilagus Aquaticus
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John, it's been a very popular subject on the afternoon and evening shows on KYNG 105.3 for the last 2 days. I don't know what you think about the station, but they are VERY pro-gun. It's of course a 'hot talk' format, but Russ Martin and Ken Goldberg have been all over the subject.
Russ Martin 3-7p
http://www.russmartin.com
Ken Goldberg
http://www.law-disorder.com
KYNG
http://www.kyng.com
Ken is an attorney and former owner of the DFW Gun Range on Mockingbird. He taught part of the CHL class I took. He's a nice enough guy, but he can be a little hard to take in larger doses. Russ, of course, is everyone's favorite 40 year old going on 15.
Ken carries a Kimber, Russ a Glock. IIRC, everyone involved with Russ's show carries daily.
Regards,
Rabbit.
Russ Martin 3-7p
http://www.russmartin.com
Ken Goldberg
http://www.law-disorder.com
KYNG
http://www.kyng.com
Ken is an attorney and former owner of the DFW Gun Range on Mockingbird. He taught part of the CHL class I took. He's a nice enough guy, but he can be a little hard to take in larger doses. Russ, of course, is everyone's favorite 40 year old going on 15.
Ken carries a Kimber, Russ a Glock. IIRC, everyone involved with Russ's show carries daily.
Regards,
Rabbit.
12-34hom
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A - team.
I love it when a plan comes together.
12-34hom.
I love it when a plan comes together.
12-34hom.
Drizzt
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Suspect on the lam makes family uneasy
01/25/2003
By JENNIFER EMILY / The Dallas Morning News
The Gomez family spent the day Friday in its SUV and the night in a motel. The family is afraid to return to its Far North Dallas home.
Jorge Gomez, 29, shot and killed two intruders Thursday morning after they kicked down the door and shot him in the shoulder. A third person, possibly a teenager, escaped in a black Cadillac. The same car may have followed Mr. Gomez's wife, Gaby, home the previous night after she picked up their children at the family's stereo business, Mr. and Mrs. Gomez said.
Mr. Gomez said he's worried about his family's future but knows he defended himself, his wife and children the only way he could.
"What can I do? It was my family," Mr. Gomez said. "I would do anything to protect them. ... I'm a little bit scared. I don't know who these people are."
Police said Mr. Gomez probably would not face criminal charges, although the case will be referred to a Dallas County grand jury.
Mrs. Gomez and their three children – ages 3, 2, and 8 months – spent Friday playing, sleeping and eating inside the SUV, and Mr. Gomez was careful to keep an eye on them.
"We're scared," Mrs. Gomez said as her youngest slept and the other two ate the unusual treat of fast food for lunch. "We'll be fine."
The Gomezes say they will live indefinitely in a motel until they feel comfortable going home or the third person is caught. They fear he might return to their apartment on Knoll Trail Drive near the Dallas North Tollway. Their home also reminds them of death and that they – not the intruders – could have died.
The man who died inside the apartment was identified Friday as 28-year-old Alex Quinones of Dallas. The intruder who died outside was identified as Carlos Ivan Boya, 23.
Mr. Quinones was most recently arrested by Dallas police on a kidnapping charge after he kicked down the door of a residence and dragged his ex-wife by her hair to his blue Jaguar.
In 1992, Mr. Quinones was found guilty of unauthorized use of a motor vehicle. His probation was revoked in 1993, and he was sentenced to 10 years in prison. He pleaded guilty in 1992 to a possession of marijuana charge. On the day of the shooting, Mr. Quinones was free on $15,000 bail on the kidnapping charge.
Mr. Boya had no previous criminal citations, state records show.
Dallas homicide Sgt. Ross Salverino said Friday that police were searching for the third suspect. He also said investigators were looking into whether the men could be connected to other crimes.
A teenager knocked on a side door of the apartment about 9 a.m. and asked for "Juan," Mr. Gomez said. As he was telling the boy he had the wrong apartment, two men approached. He saw one had a gun, so he shut and locked the door, which opened into his children's bedroom.
As he ran to the master bedroom for his own gun, one of the men shot through the door and kicked it in. The bullet struck Mr. Gomez in the left shoulder.
"My wife and kids were in the [master] bedroom. My wife tried to go out, but I yelled, 'Go inside the room. Go inside the room. Take the kids.' "
Mrs. Gomez said she huddled with the children in a corner of the bedroom as she listened to the gunshots.
Her husband said he grabbed the gun and fired until he ran out of bullets. He said Mr. Quinones fell to the floor, and Mr. Boya briefly tried to help him before running out the door.
Mr. Gomez said he put another clip in the gun and followed. The man was face down in the grass when Mr. Gomez came outside.
He and his wife said they saw a black Cadillac – possibly the same one that followed Mrs. Gomez – drive away with the third suspect behind the wheel. Mr. Gomez tried to shoot the tires and get a license plate number but was unsuccessful, his wife said.
The family had planned to buy a house in the area but now may return to Roma in South Texas instead, Mr. Gomez said. They have lived in Dallas for four years.
The couple's 8-month-old daughter and 2-year-old son don't understand what happened, but their oldest daughter is scared, her father said.
"She asked, 'Who killed you, Poppy?' " Mr. Gomez said inside his stereo business, keeping constant watch on his family in the SUV outside. "I say, 'Nobody killed me, mi hija.' I try to tell her it's fine."
http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/012503dnmetshootingfolo.e9bf.html
01/25/2003
By JENNIFER EMILY / The Dallas Morning News
The Gomez family spent the day Friday in its SUV and the night in a motel. The family is afraid to return to its Far North Dallas home.
Jorge Gomez, 29, shot and killed two intruders Thursday morning after they kicked down the door and shot him in the shoulder. A third person, possibly a teenager, escaped in a black Cadillac. The same car may have followed Mr. Gomez's wife, Gaby, home the previous night after she picked up their children at the family's stereo business, Mr. and Mrs. Gomez said.
Mr. Gomez said he's worried about his family's future but knows he defended himself, his wife and children the only way he could.
"What can I do? It was my family," Mr. Gomez said. "I would do anything to protect them. ... I'm a little bit scared. I don't know who these people are."
Police said Mr. Gomez probably would not face criminal charges, although the case will be referred to a Dallas County grand jury.
Mrs. Gomez and their three children – ages 3, 2, and 8 months – spent Friday playing, sleeping and eating inside the SUV, and Mr. Gomez was careful to keep an eye on them.
"We're scared," Mrs. Gomez said as her youngest slept and the other two ate the unusual treat of fast food for lunch. "We'll be fine."
The Gomezes say they will live indefinitely in a motel until they feel comfortable going home or the third person is caught. They fear he might return to their apartment on Knoll Trail Drive near the Dallas North Tollway. Their home also reminds them of death and that they – not the intruders – could have died.
The man who died inside the apartment was identified Friday as 28-year-old Alex Quinones of Dallas. The intruder who died outside was identified as Carlos Ivan Boya, 23.
Mr. Quinones was most recently arrested by Dallas police on a kidnapping charge after he kicked down the door of a residence and dragged his ex-wife by her hair to his blue Jaguar.
In 1992, Mr. Quinones was found guilty of unauthorized use of a motor vehicle. His probation was revoked in 1993, and he was sentenced to 10 years in prison. He pleaded guilty in 1992 to a possession of marijuana charge. On the day of the shooting, Mr. Quinones was free on $15,000 bail on the kidnapping charge.
Mr. Boya had no previous criminal citations, state records show.
Dallas homicide Sgt. Ross Salverino said Friday that police were searching for the third suspect. He also said investigators were looking into whether the men could be connected to other crimes.
A teenager knocked on a side door of the apartment about 9 a.m. and asked for "Juan," Mr. Gomez said. As he was telling the boy he had the wrong apartment, two men approached. He saw one had a gun, so he shut and locked the door, which opened into his children's bedroom.
As he ran to the master bedroom for his own gun, one of the men shot through the door and kicked it in. The bullet struck Mr. Gomez in the left shoulder.
"My wife and kids were in the [master] bedroom. My wife tried to go out, but I yelled, 'Go inside the room. Go inside the room. Take the kids.' "
Mrs. Gomez said she huddled with the children in a corner of the bedroom as she listened to the gunshots.
Her husband said he grabbed the gun and fired until he ran out of bullets. He said Mr. Quinones fell to the floor, and Mr. Boya briefly tried to help him before running out the door.
Mr. Gomez said he put another clip in the gun and followed. The man was face down in the grass when Mr. Gomez came outside.
He and his wife said they saw a black Cadillac – possibly the same one that followed Mrs. Gomez – drive away with the third suspect behind the wheel. Mr. Gomez tried to shoot the tires and get a license plate number but was unsuccessful, his wife said.
The family had planned to buy a house in the area but now may return to Roma in South Texas instead, Mr. Gomez said. They have lived in Dallas for four years.
The couple's 8-month-old daughter and 2-year-old son don't understand what happened, but their oldest daughter is scared, her father said.
"She asked, 'Who killed you, Poppy?' " Mr. Gomez said inside his stereo business, keeping constant watch on his family in the SUV outside. "I say, 'Nobody killed me, mi hija.' I try to tell her it's fine."
http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/012503dnmetshootingfolo.e9bf.html
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