Uberti 1849 with 5” or 6” barrel? Did they ever make one?

[1KPerDay]

Anyone ever seen one?

 

[Armored farmer]

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I've never seen one.

 

[Fingers McGee]

Uberti did not make any 5 or 6 inch barreled Pocket Models. As far as I know the only 6 inch barreled '49 pocket models were brass framed and made by either ASM or Palmetto.

 

[expat_alaska]

Both of these Replica Arms 1848 Pocket .31 revolvers were made by ASM (XIX/1963 for the 1st one) with 6" barrels and load levers. Note the short frame, short forcing cone, and squareback trigger guards compared to the 1849 Pocket pistols. The 1st one is mine, the second one is owned by a member on another forum.






Regards,

Jim

 

[bannockburn]

1KPerDay

Haven't seen a Model 1849 with those barrel lengths but Taylor and Co. Firearms website shows a Model 1851 in .36 cal. with a 5" barrel; out of stock of course!

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

As per their catalogs, EMF sold the steel framed ASM .31 caliber Pockets, Baby Dragoons and Wells Fargos in barrel lengths of 4 and 6 inches.

In the 1964 Armi San Marco catalog:
In addition to the 4 an 6 inch barrels, they also advertise that they made their .31 caliber Pockets and Wells Fargos in a 5 inch version but not their Baby Dragoons.
Their Pockets and Wells Fargos have the Stagecoach Holdup on the cylinder but their Baby Dragoons list the Texas Ranger - Indian Fight.
Their Baby Dragoons and the Wells Fargos have square back trigger guards and their Pockets have round ones.
Their Baby Dragoons and Pockets have loading levers while their Wells Fargoes do not.

However you will see listings in the online auctions for them that call them by various other names.

If you set up searches in Gun Broker or other auctions under the various years, types, calibers and barrel lengths you want, they pop up every so often.
Note that Armslist now charges $3.99 per month if you wish to be able to contact any private sellers. Dealers may pay to cover free contacts by prospective customers.

ASM also made brass framed versions of these .31 caliber revolvers for CVA up until 2000 when ASM ceased to exist and became American Western Arms (AWA) for a couple of years before they too closed.
I do not know if CVA carried all of the models or barrel lengths?

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

Not an Uberti, but I have a Pietta 1851 in .44 with a 5 inch barrel that was being marketed as the US Marshal model, proofed in 2000.

 

[Gatofeo]

At a gun show in Spokane in the early 1980s, I encountered a reproduction 1849 for sale with a 5" barrel. The man selling it said it balanced better than the 4 or 6" barrel models.
And I believe he was right.
I've regretted not getting it since that encounter. I've never seen another one, and I've been looking in online auctions for years.
That little .31-caliber Colt copy had a sweet balance to it with a 5" barrel.

 

[bannockburn]

1KPerDay

You know that '51 Navy with the 5" barrel I said was Out Of Stock a couple of days ago...well it's now showing In Stock for $358 at Taylor's and Co.!

 

[1KPerDay]

Thanks but I'm not in the market for a cut down navy at this time.

 

[bannockburn]

1KPerDay

Bummer! I would go for it but between moving this year and having a ton of remodeling done, my wife and I are forgoing our usual gift exchange. I guess it will have to be my vicarious thrill for today that I at least found some black powder revolvers in stock!

 

[1KPerDay]

I'm working on getting a replica example of each original I have first. I need a pocket model (4 and 6 inch if possible), a pocket police, an 1861 navy, and an 1855 Root pocket model if possible.

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

I forgot to mention above that ASM also did the .31 Pocket with the half round dragoon style barrel.
I am not sure what barrel lengths were made it that style and they are the rarest of the ASM Pockets.

 

[entropy]

Mine was Armi San Marco.

 

[Gordon]

The original Colt model 1849 came in 3"-6" barrel lengths as standard order. Over the years also 5 shot cylinders or 6 shot, with or without loading levers and large or smaller trigger guards. Apparently from written accounts the 5" was highly regarded for small game use and no doubt the 6" was even better for that use. people actually wanted and used the 1849 .31 for getting a little something to eat, alot more than defense.

 

[1KPerDay]

I’ve got 2 4” and one 6” originals, 2 5 and one 6 shot. Trying to decide if I should bother buying a replica to shoot. The originals need some tweaking to be shootable.

 

[Gordon]

I’ve got 2 4” and one 6” originals, 2 5 and one 6 shot. Trying to decide if I should bother buying a replica to shoot. The originals need some tweaking to be shootable.

Pictures of the 6" please

 

[TheOutlawKid]

The original Colt model 1849 came in 3"-6" barrel lengths as standard order. Over the years also 5 shot cylinders or 6 shot, with or without loading levers and large or smaller trigger guards. Apparently from written accounts the 5" was highly regarded for small game use and no doubt the 6" was even better for that use. people actually wanted and used the 1849 .31 for getting a little something to eat, alot more than defense.

I have no doubt as to your claim as i feel cap and ball guns performance is highly underrated. I wonder what kind of small game people shot with these small caliber guns. Perhaps rabbit and small fowl like grouse? I would think its like shooting a .22 with similar performace..and we all know that the .22 has been used for all sorts of game big or small. Do you have any recorded examples of these guns being used for small game in a pinch? Id love to read up on these accounts. Thanks for sharing sir!

 

[1KPerDay]

Pictures of the 6" please

Here you go. I put a pocket police and a Navy in for comparison.

 

[Gordon]

Wow, just Wow ! Looks like a .32 caliber Rabbit getter for sure, or a small deer in the eye . Or putting some lead into a hostile shooting at me.

 

[1KPerDay]

Just for fun, Allen pepperbox and Colt Root

 

[arcticap]

What caliber is the 1855 Root, .28 or .31?

 

[1KPerDay]

I always have assumed 31 but I haven’t checked

 

[Tommygunn]

What caliber is the 1855 Root, .28 or .31?

They were made in both calibers by Colt. Palmetto repros are .31.

 

[expat_alaska]

I forgot to mention above that ASM also did the .31 Pocket with the half round dragoon style barrel.
I am not sure what barrel lengths were made it that style and they are the rarest of the ASM Pockets.

Just found this on GB. Nominal 6" barrel (5.75"). Same length as my ASM 1848 Pocket. Needs some function work per seller.

Regards,

Jim

Italian Armi San Marco ASM Colt Model 1849 Pocket .31 Cal 5.75" BP Revolver - Black Powder Pistols & Muzzleloader Pistols at GunBroker.com : 885968616