UK: Prisons Warned of "Wasp" Diver's Knife

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I found this story in the news this morning, UK prisons are being warned of a SCUBA diver's knife that may find its way into the country.

It's called the Wasp knife; website can be found here. The knife works by injecting compressed air, contained in the handle, through the blade and into the target.

Here is a cutaway image showing the Wasp knife mechanism:

waspknifecutaway.gif

Scary stuff! :eek:
 
We've had a couple of threads on the WASP - it's a neat concept, and is indeed very scary to be on the receiving end. I wonder why only prisons would be warned, and not "all LEOs" and "the general public" in hoplophobic UK?
 
Don't have the link, but there is a YouTube video of said knife blowing apart a watermelon.

Does anyone know if the CO2 is all that needs replaced? The site makes it sound as if you must replace the whole handle.
 
I wonder why only prisons would be warned, and not "all LEOs" and "the general public" in hoplophobic UK?


generally speaking, if you see these sorts of things in the newspaper, the police have already known about them for some time before that.

here's quite the informative guide to perp home made weapons, hidden storage compartments and things of that nature.

http://www.bluesheepdog.com/downloads/officersafety_disguisedweapons.pdf
 
The Youtube video clearly shows the whole handle having to be replaced. That can't be cheap.

Something about the way the knife injures turns me off to the whole thing.
 
People already wince when they have to spend a dollar or two for a single round of quality ammunition. I don't think that anyone who has an alternative is going to spend $50 per cannister to inflate their victims like a balloon.

I could see this being used by divers, but if they want to be taken seriously, they need to drop the watermellon act and put out some tests using pig or preferably shark carcasses.

Just my .02 cents
 
From the PDF

Some cell phone cases, like this one, have a clip on the back which
is large enough to conceal a small knife.

Works well with the generic Sears cellphone case and a SubCom. It's how I've carried mine for several months now.

Anyway, if you're a cop and you get stabbed, odds are good your day's been ruined anyway.. gas or no gas.
 
Well, I'm glad to know that the PRISONS will be on the lookout for these things, but they can overlook any of those plain old run of the mill knives that happen to find their way behind bars. (roll eyes)
 
That's been done before, but with a can of insecticide and a sharpened hollow tube. Nasty.
 
Well, I'm glad to know that the PRISONS will be on the lookout for these things, but they can overlook any of those plain old run of the mill knives that happen to find their way behind bars. (roll eyes)

I think most stabbing instruments in prison are made from things in prison. Worrying about few hundred dollar knives that require replacement co2 cartridges being smuggled in seems rather silly.
Seems like propoganda for the masses of that nation. Associate 'evil' knife with prison population, makes 'evil' knife seem even more evil.


Stabbing instruments in prisons are made from practicly any metal that can be aquired, plastic that can be melted etc
They even melt plastic bags, styrofoam, plastic containers like hygiene and food containers etc
One interesting weapo was tightly rolled paper that was wrapped with saran wrap and then fire hardened and sharpened. That was used to inflict some horrific stab wounds as it was well over a foot long and held its sharpened shape.
Those are the items made by restricted prisoners.
Many others are on work details with various potentialy lethal tools on a regular basis, those can be used by them, used to make other weapons, or smuggled to other prisoners. Prisons are ruled by gangs in many places, so anything that is in the hands of one prisoner can find its way into the hands of another prisoner as part of thier politics. Failure to deliver something to fellow gang members can result in them being 'disciplined' by the gang.

They hardly need to smuggle stabbing intruments into prisons, especialy exotic ones. If they are going through that much trouble to successfuly smuggle in items made of metal, they can just as easily be firearms which also cost about as much.

So put this in the propoganda catagory, meant to scare the citizens and support knife control in general by associating particularly nasty knives with prisons. Just like 'assault weapons' were often associated with gang bangers here in the states, while stolen handguns were the primary firearms used by them in most killings. Drumming up support to ban handguns was clearly not going to work as they were held by many Americans, but drumming up support against the exotic 'assault weapons' (newly created term then) held by fewer was more effective. (Including many types which since the first AWB have become extremely popular and normal among Americans in ways they were not before.)

Propoganda to achieve a desired control or future legislation.
 
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Might as well smuggle a gun into prison if they are going to try to get a knife like that in LOL I mean really, if a knife that big makes it past security checks, you can surely get a pistol. Knife like that wont make a good prison knife, not that concealble.

Edit: Ummm exactly what Zoogster said lol sorry I posted before reading yours
 
Oh brother

here's quite the informative guide to perp home made weapons, hidden storage compartments and things of that nature.

They proudly display the under-bed compartment of a Honda Ridgeline pickup, which *could* be used to conceal weapons...

Oh the humanity!!!!!! :rolleyes:

There is an incredible amount of ridiculous stuff at that bluesheepdog link...
 
Not scary stuff. FEAR MONGERING. Human tissue is not plant tissue. It is VERY FLEXIBLE and has no problem simply expanding the knife wound to eject the air. Unless you're being attacked by melons, the injection of air into a wound will just blast blood right back on your face and into your mouth. And likely pop the stupid knife right back into you.

This ranks as one of the most profoundly idiotic weapon systems I have ever seen. Come to think of it, someone should sell it to the DOD! They'd be all over it.
 
30 English Pounds per replacement handle, that's ~$60.

Looking at the video, notice how the user has to move his thumb to the top of the guard in order to activate the gas release? Also notice how he has to support the move with his free hand?

Looks stupidly inefficient in the real world, especially for use against moving sharks (or humans).
 
The vast majority of people report that they thought they were being punched when they were in fact being stabbed. Just concentrate on defending against the mechanism of the attack and not the blade being used.
 
Okay, but it's CO2. Wouldn't it freeze tissue as well? I've used the cartridges in paintball guns, and when I would change out, The spent one was frosted. So wouldn't it cause a frozen gassy wound?:D
 
Same knife that loads a blank firearm cartridge would have similar results I imagine.

This knife was designed for killing large fish?
 
Injected into the lungs, it might make someone cough a lot.

Next time you finish a 2 liter bottle of pop, try poking some holes in it near the bottom. Then put your mouth on the bottle, and inhale. Try to maintain your composure.

Maybe they should make it spray mace into the stab wound.
 
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