Unarmed police cadet gunned down on college campus in California.

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RICHMOND, Calif. -- Officers from five police agencies searched Thursday for a gunman who shot a Contra Costa College student police cadet three times at close range.

Richmond police Lt. Mark Gagan said a SWAT team is searching Fairmede Park in Richmond, where police believe the gunman could be hiding out.

The shooting occurred on Shane Drive on the border of the college campus, which is located at 2600 Mission Bell Drive in San Pablo, at about 12:55 p.m., Gagan said.

The victim was a student and campus police cadet. He was not a sworn officer and was not armed, but he was wearing a uniform, Gagan said.

Richmond police Detective Sgt. Mitch Peixoto said the victim had been driving a campus police golf cart when he came upon a man involved in a car theft. When the cadet pulled up alongside the man, police said the gunman shot him three times at close range.

The victim was in critical condition when he was taken to John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek. According to Peixoto, he has since been stabilized and has gone into surgery.

Meanwhile, about 50 police officers from five different law enforcement agencies sealed off a large area around the campus, which included parts of San Pablo, Richmond and unincorporated areas of the county.

Police also brought in five K-9 teams, three helicopters and a SWAT team, police said.

Streets in the area remain blocked off and officers are searching vehicles as they leave, Gagan said.

Highland Elementary School in Richmond was locked down following the shooting. The school is located at 2829 Moyers Road in Richmond, just one block from the park where the shooter is currently being sought.

Students have since been escorted off school grounds and released to their parents or guardians, Gagan said.
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Yet another reason not to disarm college students, or police for that matter.
 
Meanwhile, about 50 police officers from five different law enforcement agencies sealed off a large area around the campus, which included parts of San Pablo, Richmond and unincorporated areas of the county.

Police also brought in five K-9 teams, three helicopters and a SWAT team, police said.
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Wonder how many of those guys would be looking for a perp that shot joe citizen as he was driving around in his golf cart?
 
Ah, college campuses... Pillars of modern thinking, and educational evolvment.. Why shouldn't a place like that be free from violence, and chaotic encounters?

Sure they should! But the fact remains that they are not... Shame on this institution and the presiding legal law enforcement agency that writes policies to allow unarmed cadets to become victims to slaughter...
 
make him a target by giving him a uniform but don't give him a means of protection? :rolleyes:
 
What I would like to know is what this imbecile was doing trying to make like a sworn LEO. He is a cadet, probably does not even have a radio, has no legal authority to do anything yet drives up to someone who is stealing a car. If he'd been half way intelligent he would have made a note of the license number as he drove buy, then gotten to a phone and called the campus police. As it was he very nearly got himself killed. He treats what should have been a felony stop as though it was some one throwing cream puffs at a friend.

Btw, the shooter was probably long gone by the time the LEOs got there, even if witnesses did see him flee into the woods. As the report says, 'where it was thought the shooter was hiding'; IOW they don't really have a clue.
 
ilbob wrote: Wonder how many of those guys would be looking for a perp that shot joe citizen as he was driving around in his golf cart?
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Exactly what I was thinking. The police seem to put a little more effort into these things when it was one of their own. However, I sure hope their effort pays off, and they catch the @$%#!^& ?@#^&!# who did it!

Archer1945 wrote: What I would like to know is what this imbecile was doing trying to make like a sworn LEO. He is a cadet, probably does not even have a radio, has no legal authority to do anything yet drives up to someone who is stealing a car.
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Yeah, it could have been a dumb move on his part... or maybe he didn't know that it was a theft in progress. The car theft part could have been pieced together by the responding officers after the shooting. I'm guessing that the cadet saw what he thought was a student having car trouble, and he pulled up to see if he could be of assistance.
 
I worked as a Safety and Security Officer (SSO) at a college campus for a year and a half. We had uniforms that looked almost identical to the campus police uniforms - same pants, same shirt except we had the campus initials embroidered instead of a badge. We had radios and flashlights and glove pouches and other stuff hanging off our belt just like the police. We were not issued guns, vests, or intermediate weapons. We did however patrol campus 24 hours/day just like the police. Being of somewhat sound mind, I realized how silly it was to be doing the same things the police are doing, responding to the same calls as the police, and roaming the dark campus solo during the middle of the night - all without any sort of weapon.

I started keeping my 642 in my pocket and never told a soul. It would most certainly have gotten me fired, possibly criminal charges as well. I've since moved on to another department.

What the guy in the story did was dumb. He should have radioed for armed officers to respond while keeping a watchful eye on the subject. This was a lesson learned the hard way. I hope he recovers.
 
On the Porltand,Or news last nigh they showed a local? college plice force being issued 'tazers' of some sort....and some of the students were just HORRIFIED that they were being issued 'weapons'!!!!

GET UR HEADS OUTTA UR BUTTS,PEOPLE!!!!!!!! sheesh.

I too hope this young man recovers fully.

May the perp rot in hell.and soon.
 
What I would like to know is what this imbecile was doing trying to make like a sworn LEO.
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What I would like to know is what besides inductive leaping makes you draw the conclusion that he was an imbecile acting as a sworn officer

The article only states that he came alongside a car thief, not that he knew it was a car thief or what if any actions by the car thief led the cadet to believe it was anything more than someone having car trouble

But then I guess it's always fun when you can call a uniform a dumbass
 
joab, I would suggest you re-read the report. It specifically says "when he came upon a man involved in a car theft", which looks to me as if he new it was a theft. Not only that but the person who shot him was only "involved in a car theft" not even the thief.

As for, "But then I guess it's always fun when you can call a uniform a dumbass", not only is that not a THR grade comment but it also shows you'd rather shoot your mouth off when you know nothing about the poster. For all you know I could be a 30 year LEO, instructor, etc who knows more than a little about what he is saying. I won't say if I am or I'm not but I will say I have a brother who is an former LEO as well as a cousin and any number of friends who are both former and active LEOs. I'd also be willing to bet with the evidence given they would totally agree with me.
 
calm down boys! :p


i hope he recovers (and hope the college takes note that this is what happens when unarmed people stumble upon something they shouldnt have.)
 
The article is not clear on whether he knew it was a car theft in progress or not when he happened by. Could be he was just on his regular patrol and stumbled on it and startled the thief. Its not even real clear why they think it was a car theft.

Might not even have been a patrol. He might have been just returning the cart to its evening parking spot for all we know.
 
What does it matter if he knew if it was a car theft or not.

Are people trying to suggest that it was his fault for being shot?
 
What does it matter if he knew if it was a car theft or not.

Are people trying to suggest that it was his fault for being shot?
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I think another poster suggested he tried to stop a car theft in progress.
 
As said we dont' KNOW if he "had reason to believe" there was a car theft going on. As said he (might) have thought it was car trouble,students goofing around with someones car.
I paid a fair portion of my College expenses by working security on two campuses.. One the "uniform" was jeans and a red shirt/jacket with flashlight/belt/keys and no weapons allowed. The other we got a PD looking shirt with patchs, Leather PD looking bomber jacket and radio/flashlight (both places gave the Streamlight SL 20X (IIRC) and a pickup (first place you walked/ran everywhere)
Both places the policy was "We run from danger faster then anyone" Many of us did not but that was policy. We did have good relationship with local PD and our dispatch could connect to them directly. (Some officers had our radio freq on their in car scanner and would "unlock" it if they were called on campus)
Also on a certain night where a pair of "gentlemen" were causing trouble on campus and we had a "chat" and they wound up getting their hunting knives taken and a few hrs in a jail cell I did happen to go off campus to my apt and grab my S&W 66-2 and spare speedloaders for that night and next few. (they promised to get me)
 
Wonder how many of those guys would be looking for a perp that shot joe citizen as he was driving around in his golf cart?
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I can't speak for that police department; but the Dallas Police Department (which is troubled on a lot of fronts, to say the least) passed me in a 14+ vehicle and a helicopter parade not too long ago (I stopped counting after 14). The subject turned out to be a man who shot his wife during a domestic dispute. Barely made the news that night and I certainly wouldn't have known of how big the response was if I had not seen it myself.
 
I'm a college student.

I don't want campus cops to have tasers or firearms.

The campus cops are poorly funded and trained. The University is expensive enough and we (the students) already pay for police protection by paying taxes.

If a security guard (campus cop) can't handle a situation; he should call the real police, just like any other security guard.

/Doesn't want to be tased.
 
Albatross

Where do you stand on others carrying on campus? I am a faculty member. Do you want me defenseless? Do you want your classmates defenseless? Or is it only campus police that you distrust?
 
Cops have mostly squandered the trust the public used to have in them, especially in urban areas.

Now, most people instinctively distrust police in general. Part of it is a legitimate reaction to unchecked LE misconduct over the years, but a lot of it is just general distrust of government at all levels, and cops are the very visible face of out of control government.

Cops kind of draw the short stick. They are expected to maintain law and order, while the legislature is going around making laws that just about guarantee lawlessness and disorder. On top of that, most LE interaction your average LAC has these days is when he experiences a revenue stop. Guess who decides how many revenue stops cops have to make? I will give you a hint. It ain't the cop making them.
 
It specifically says "when he came upon a man involved in a car theft", which looks to me as if he new it was a theft. N
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In other words, my original words actually, you make the inductive leap that because the man was involved with stealing a car and the cadet pulled up alongside him he must have known that he was involved with stealing a car
Not only that but the person who shot him was only "involved in a car theft" not even the thief.
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Funny how you try to nit pick wording when your argument is failing but not before you make that argument
but it also shows you'd rather shoot your mouth off when you know nothing about the poster.
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What does it say about the poster when he calls the victim of crime an imbecile when that poster doesn't know a damn thing about the particulars of the case
And you want to lecture me on highroadedness

For all you know I could be a 30 year LEO, instructor, etc who knows more than a little about what he is saying. I won't say if I am or I'm not but I will say I have a brother who is an former LEO as well as a cousin and any number of friends who are both former and active LEOs. I'd also be willing to bet with the evidence given they would totally agree with me.
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If any of them would consider this little blurb evidence then maybe they need to go back to the academy

What your family and friends do has nothing to do with what you know about anything

You made an asinine comment with the very barest of evidence to go on and decided tcalled a man an imbecile when for all you know he was simply doing the job he was supposed to be doing
Yeah straight up high road
 
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