Unfriendly gun states

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1. What are the top 3 unfriendly gun states?
Cities: nyc, dc, chicago
2. Do you currently live in one of these states?
live in nyc
3. Given the importance of our RKBA, why do you still choose to live there?
rkba doesnt trump family. anyway I am still free to practice civil disobedience.
4. What would it take for you to decide to move out of your current state?
a war.
 
Black Majik...

4. What would it take for you to decide to move out of your current state?

Great weather, beautiful women, near a beach, lenient gun laws (anythings better than here), the possibility to get an AR (I want one so bad), and lower taxes.
There may be some other states, but you just described Virginia Beach, VA.

Seasonal weather, generally UN-harsh; beautiful women native AND swarms of summer visitors; Shall Issue ($50) 5 years; AR's available at reasonable prices; lower taxes. Of course, with all this, you may or may not find pay scales the same; but then, the costs aren't the same.

FWIW.

http://www.vbgov.com/default/
http://www.virginia.gov/cmsportal/

-Andy
 
Great weather, beautiful women, near a beach, lenient gun laws (anythings better than here), the possibility to get an AR (I want one so bad), and lower taxes.
Black Majik,

So when are you moving to Florida? Go Gators!
 
LOL, by all your guys' enthusiastic responses looks like I need to take a nice trip down to FL to take a look around.

What would you guys recommend as nice places to visit. Tampa, Daytona Beach, Miami...

Last time since I was in Florida was when I was 9 or 10... so its been a LONG time, and I went to go see Disneyworld! :D
 
I've lived all up and down the East coast from Jacksonville to Palm Beach. Wnet to undergrad in Gainesville. My brother lives in Pensacola. Basically....anyplace but Orlando has possibilites IMHO :).

South Florida (Palm Beach, Broward and Dade counties) is probably best for a CA guy. Of course it depends on your line of work too...not a lot of heavy or hi-tech industry there.
 
1.What are the top 3 unfriendly gun states?

Illinois, Massachusetts and New York

2. Do you currently live in one of these states?

Hell no.:fire:

3. Given the importance of our RKBA, why do you still choose to live there?

N/A

4. What would it take for you to decide to move out of your current state?

I am happy here. But a tad warmer weather would be nice.:cool:

Anyone else noticing the pattern of, least gun friendly states = high crime states.

New Hampshire is a hard state to beat. It is gun friendly, no state income tax, no sales tax, very low crime rate and even auto insurance is not compulsory.
 
1.What are the top 3 unfriendly gun states?

I'd guess CA, NY, and MA. CA is the only one i know firsthand, though.

2. Do you currently live in one of these states?

Sadly, I live in California.

3. Given the importance of our RKBA, why do you still choose to live there?

Because i'm only 15 and my parents like it here.

4. What would it take for you to decide to move out of your current state?

The opportunity.
 
I have lived in MA and do live in CA.

While Massachusetts has unappealing permit issues I was still able to get my CCW which I shall never be able to obtain here in California. However; California does exhibit some gun friendly attitudes.

In Massachusetts one cannot even own a firearm without a permit and/or license (depending on the type of gun). California requires only a Handgun Safety Certificate to purchase a pistol. It's a hoop to jump through - but after all the posts I see about idiots at the range -- I don't see any evil in proving to the seller that one has enough safety-sense to refrain from blowing their own (a)ss into oblivion.

Long guns require no permits. There is no licensing for ownership.

Additionally, Southern California has more shooting ranges and facilities within a seventy mile radius than I imagined possible. We actually do have a pretty sizeable community of shooters here. The ranges are packed on weekends. And the diversity of those who shoot (from shotgunners to pistoliers to black powder and curio collectors) is a wonder to behold. It helps that we can shoot outdoors on almost any day of the year and then, for lunch, go eat ribs or sushi or mexican or chinese food or just a burger. California has a lot to offer.

Could the state be better? Sure. I think there are those both in the legislature and among the voting public who could benefit from some education on firearms. They will never receive such an education if those who are knowledgable just up and leave. I do my part to teach. I know others who do the same. It's a worthy battle.

Would I leave? Maybe. I'm open to living other places. I've lived here ten years; however, and I am pretty entrenched.
 
1.What are the top 3 unfriendly gun states?

California, Massachusetts and New York

2. Do you currently live in one of these states?

PRK

3. Given the importance of our RKBA, why do you still choose to live there?

My profession gives me very limited options where to live and work. Most of the firms are concentrated in the bay area, san diego area, boston MA. A few are scattered around the rest of the country in RTP, NC, one in IN, one in MI. Since my "career" is only until I go back to grad school, I think I can handle two more years in the PRK (I've lived here for 4 already).
Oh if you ignore the taxes, the politics, and the gun control, WHAT A STATE. Perfect weather, nice people, attractive women, plenty of outdoor activities, great competitive shooting scene (although I hear Arizona has the best).

4. What would it take for you to decide to move out of your current state?

A good job in my field in a liberty loving state like MT, ID, WY, NH, or VT. Since that is unlikely, I'm going to have to become loaded, then move to a good state.



atek3
 
I can only speak for MA but : obtaining an LTC was not difficult or prohibitively expensive . I believe that a majority of states require a training course for CCW and I have no problem with that at all , mine was $50 . The permit is $25/yer ( $100/4year validity ) which isn't much as far as my safety is concerned . I did not have to qualify with my carry piece or have to have X listed on my LTC . I can carry any place I would like other than government buildings and schools : not a problem to carry in bars and I have yet to see a sign that says No Concealed Weapons like were fairly common in malls etc in NC . The AG's list of approved guns is a PITA but it doesn't inhibit my ability to keep myself well armed . If I wanted to go buy a half dozen refurbed Glocks or new SIGs and a brace of AR-15's , I'd just have to wait until Tues. when Four Seasons opens , throw down my creditcard and walk out with them as soon as NCIS cleared - I do not need to have a permit to buy or withstand a waiting period .
 
My wife and I left california for a "red" state. We both now have concealed weapon permits. The irony of it is I don't carry because I don't feel the need. My wife, a runner, carries a kahr when running trails and that makes me happy.

We didn't leave the prk primarily because of gun laws but the combination of extreme socialism and unbearable living conditions drove us out. We now own our home and live among a very polite and orderly society.

I have no intention of ever going back, not even to visit. Would feel too much like visiting a maximum security prison.
 
DC may not be a state, but has electoral votes and people --- it HAS to be #1 on any sensible list.

The City of NY has a population over 8million--larger than most states. It ranks in the top 3 without question.

So what state is begging to be #3? It ain't California, folks.
Amadeus described PRK's gun status better than I could, and accurately.

Hint: PRK may have sent DiFi and BarbaraBoxer to Washington, for which we deserve a great deal of hits, but who sent Ted Kennedy and John Kerry?

Yup, I live in PRK.
I'll be happy to bitch about it too.
That's my right as a member of the community.

My children, my grandchildren, and my job are within 5 miles of my home.
Every friend and organization I have accumulated in the past 35 years is in easy driving distance.
This beats a ten-day waiting period, people.
It even trumps a :banghead: :cuss: :fire: Roster (of "approved" handguns).

I won't be moving from here.
I will be fighting, along side of others that live here, for a better state.
I may lose and become a criminal, but this is my place and here I stay.
 
1. What are the top 3 unfriendly gun states?

CA, IL, MA


2. Do you currently live in one of these states?

Nope. Grew up in ND, left for the military, back now to go to college, then leaving again for 4 years of active duty (hopefully assigned to a gun friendly state). The only gun unfriendliness in this state is a couple stipulations in the cc law (list of off limits places slightly annoying), and being so close to the odor of socialism that Minnesota puts off.


3. Given the importance of our RKBA, why do still choose to live there?

N/A


4. What would it take for you to decide to move out of your current state?

2 years of school to go, followed my mil. service... Beyond that I don't know where I'll be living, but RKBA will be one of the stipulations in deciding on a home state.
 
When I first got into guns I was surprised to find that there were actually states that allow CCW. I was so used to IL's laws, I didn't know we were only 1 of 4 (is it 4?) that doesn't allow CCW. :confused:
 
Any list without Illinios on it, is incomplete.

There is NO conceiled carry at all, under no circumstances.

Ex cop or military doesn't matter.

You cannot even have ammunition and a gun in the same case, they must be stored separately (for transportation).

We are all on file with the state police (FOID cards).

And from what I understand, you cannot even drive through some jurisdictions with a handgun without breaking the law.

As far as why I live here. I grew up here, I have a business here, friends and family are here and I have never known anything other than the Democrat cronyism of Chicagoland.

I will most likely end up in Florida.
 
1. What are the top 3 unfriendly gun states?

CA,NJ,IL (maybe MA) I don't think MA belongs on the list, becase as soon as you ge a few miles away from Boston, obtaining a CCW becomes far easier. And that CCW is usable statewide. If you only judged MA by metro-boston, it would be just as bad as the others.

2. Do you currently live in one of these states?

MA, yes.

3. Given the importance of our RKBA, why do still choose to live there?

Somebody needs to speak up for it, and fight off the raving loonies. Plus, I have a lucrative job here, and all of my immediate and extended family lives here.

4. What would it take for you to decide to move out of your current state?

Not only a good job elsewhere, but also the prospect of other good jobs should I dislike my current one [robust high tech economy]. Relative proximity to a major metropolitan area, Proximity to an ocean.
 
im with tcdrennen

2. I live in CA, but not in the Blue area - though Orange County isn't too far from L.A.
3. I still live here because the cause is worth fighting for, and the WEATHER is the best anywhere.
4. Great job/income and acceptable climate (little/no snow, low humidity, temperate year round.)
 
You cannot even have ammunition and a gun in the same case, they must be stored separately (for transportation).

GoRon you are incorrect about this. Here is what it says on the IL State Police website in the FAQ section:

Is it legal to have ammunition in the case with the firearm?
Yes, so long as the firearm is unloaded and properly enclosed in a case.
 
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