May I join? I have the Uberti Whitneyville Dragoon. Haven't even shot it yet. I have the desire to get a second one so I can pack a pair of them! I also want to see if I can manufacture an iron triggerguard for it and call it the "Blue Dragoon"....
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By the way, others have beaten around the bush, but still not driven out the bird. Dragoons were mounted infantry. Sort of a mobile infantry. Intended to fight dismounted, if possible, but capable of fighting from horseback if necessary.
Hence, "U.S. Mounted Rifles".
Hence, "U.S. Mounted Rifles".
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Hi Stophel,
Post up your pics, and you're in! Share what you got with the rest of us. You'll garner ooh's and aah's and become the envy of the unwashed masses.
Post up your pics, and you're in! Share what you got with the rest of us. You'll garner ooh's and aah's and become the envy of the unwashed masses.
Hey, here's a link to a photo of a really super nice pair of second model Dragoons that have custom iron triggerguards.
http://www.littlegun.be/arme americaine/colt/colt dragoon 1848-01.jpg
http://www.littlegun.be/arme americaine/colt/colt dragoon 1848-01.jpg
Ginormous
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Nice cased pistols Stophel. Be sure to get pics of your first outing when you do get the chance to shoot these babies. The grin on your face will undoubtedly be priceless!
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That's a beautiful flask Stophel, original or replica? I like the iron trigger guards, don't see them often.
Took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about.... That is a pair of original Dragoons I found on the internet. Definitely not mine (though I sure wouldn't mind if they were...). Just thought they were nice and you all would like to see them. I love the iron triggerguards. I would really like to have an iron triggerguard and I am considering attempting to make one. It will have to be in two pieces, one, the grip frame and triggerguard bow, and two, the mounting plate section. Fitted and silver soldered together. I'll get around to it...eventually.
I have internet photos of one of the only two original Whitneyville Dragoons I have seen. The triggerguard APPEARS to be iron. Really looks good. It could well be that the triggerguard is ordinary silver plated brass, and the silver has tarnished to black.
I have internet photos of one of the only two original Whitneyville Dragoons I have seen. The triggerguard APPEARS to be iron. Really looks good. It could well be that the triggerguard is ordinary silver plated brass, and the silver has tarnished to black.
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Stophel, you're right about the U.S.M.R., in fact my Uberti made replica has 'U.S.M.R.' right there on the gun.
Those Iron Trigger Guards may well be London Colts, and, a 'Presentation' option, also.
I like them too.
Well...nothing some basic hot Forging/forming, and, a lotta Filing couldn't do...
Lol...
But seriously...would not be too hard to come up with.
I'm busier than 'H' now till April...but maybe then, I'll try one for my Dragoon.
It's a nice look, for sure
I like them too.
Well...nothing some basic hot Forging/forming, and, a lotta Filing couldn't do...
Lol...
But seriously...would not be too hard to come up with.
I'm busier than 'H' now till April...but maybe then, I'll try one for my Dragoon.
It's a nice look, for sure
Hoof Hearted
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OK........
Can I join if my Dragoon has a Walker cylinder in it?
What if my conversion to cartridge is a Walker equivilent load of 60gr fffg and a 250gr bullet?
I mean, this is the definition of an "Express" loading....
I don't seem to fit in over at the "Walker club", please help me find a home.........
Colt 2nd Generation, First model
Can I join if my Dragoon has a Walker cylinder in it?
What if my conversion to cartridge is a Walker equivilent load of 60gr fffg and a 250gr bullet?
I mean, this is the definition of an "Express" loading....
I don't seem to fit in over at the "Walker club", please help me find a home.........
Colt 2nd Generation, First model
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straight-shooter
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I have this Cimmaron Uberti 3rd model Dragoon... her bark is just as dangerous as her bite!
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Hi Hoof Hearted,
Untill now, I had felt no interest in any 'Conversions'.
Yours, Rings the Bell !
Wow, is that ever nice...
Where would one get a conversion Cylinder like that? Or, did you make it yourself?
I would sure like to have one like that for my Dragoon.
Untill now, I had felt no interest in any 'Conversions'.
Yours, Rings the Bell !
Wow, is that ever nice...
Where would one get a conversion Cylinder like that? Or, did you make it yourself?
I would sure like to have one like that for my Dragoon.
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Hi Hoof Hearted,
Have you chrono'd those 60/250 Loads?
I have some 230 Grain flat face Wadcutters I have fired in my plain old Garden Variety Walker, but, I do not remember what they were doing for FPS.
Anyway, I really like the WALKER Cylinder conversion mods for the Dragoon.
Is fitting up an actual COLT Dragoon in that way, and any more or less easy or difficult, than if it were a Uberti?
I understand 'ASM' require some extra effort.
Have you chrono'd those 60/250 Loads?
I have some 230 Grain flat face Wadcutters I have fired in my plain old Garden Variety Walker, but, I do not remember what they were doing for FPS.
Anyway, I really like the WALKER Cylinder conversion mods for the Dragoon.
Is fitting up an actual COLT Dragoon in that way, and any more or less easy or difficult, than if it were a Uberti?
I understand 'ASM' require some extra effort.
Here's an interesting one on the Gee Bee -
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213926702
Be fun to look at it in person to really study it.
Might just be an alright old Revolver too.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213926702
Be fun to look at it in person to really study it.
Might just be an alright old Revolver too.
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Oyeboten
Other than cutting the protruding "forceing cone" area of the barrel back, the fitment is the same on Uberti or Colt 2nd gen.
One of these days I need to get the Chronograph out, I suppose........I tell most that it is "like" shooting a 44 mag but not as "sharp".
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Just saw this thread which makes me late in the game. I have Colt 2nd generation: "F" series 1st and 2nd model dragoons and a "C" bicentennial 3rd model. Will post images as soon as I get some time.
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This is a small pic (camera phone thing!) of my old 2nd Mod. Dragoon. A 1969 ASM production that I've had since 1969...It has been my most favored revolver of all time and is still my best shooter! Just love it even after all these years. Killed 4 hogs, 3 deer, and unknown number of other stuff like aramidillos and such. Yes sir! That's my baby!
Wade
This is a small pic (camera phone thing!) of my old 2nd Mod. Dragoon. A 1969 ASM production that I've had since 1969...It has been my most favored revolver of all time and is still my best shooter! Just love it even after all these years. Killed 4 hogs, 3 deer, and unknown number of other stuff like aramidillos and such. Yes sir! That's my baby!
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Yes it does!
Clembert and I went down the same basic path but I followed the convential wisdom of the conversion era and reamed the chambers straight (no throats) he used a gunsmith (Dave Clements I believe) who left throats in his chambers. On mine using 250 grain bullets the throat would have been very short but I also have 15 or 20 conversions that were set up this way and another fellow that I knew who did one of these was experiencing some pressure issues with his. The thing that people don't understand is that these "open top" designs compound set back issues. There is no gas ring at the front of the cylinder so headspace is a total of all clearances. The hammer pushes the cylinder forward and the bullet exiting pushes it rearward. So far mine has held up pretty well!
Clembert and I went down the same basic path but I followed the convential wisdom of the conversion era and reamed the chambers straight (no throats) he used a gunsmith (Dave Clements I believe) who left throats in his chambers. On mine using 250 grain bullets the throat would have been very short but I also have 15 or 20 conversions that were set up this way and another fellow that I knew who did one of these was experiencing some pressure issues with his. The thing that people don't understand is that these "open top" designs compound set back issues. There is no gas ring at the front of the cylinder so headspace is a total of all clearances. The hammer pushes the cylinder forward and the bullet exiting pushes it rearward. So far mine has held up pretty well!
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