Unusual Spent Bullet I Found

[GarySTL]

I was at my local range yesterday an found this spent bullet on the ground. It appears to be a 9mm to me, but the markings are what I found interesting.








The markings on the base look like an imprint of the nose of the same type of bullet. I imagine that there was a squib round, this one, with another round fired right after. The nose of the second round made the marks on the base of this one as it pushed it out the barrel. This one appears to have hit one of our steel plates, but only hard enough to do the little upset shown. The nose marks could also have come from someone driving this bullet backwards out of the barrel.

Any better guesses?

 

[Jim K]

I think the first guess was the correct one. I wouldn't be surprised if the barrel was bulged.

Jim

 

[ThomasT]

curiouser and curiouser

Alice in woderland.

 

[rcmodel]

I doubt it.

A squib would have no marks on the nose unless someone tried to drive it out.

And it wouldn't be Figure-8 shaped if another bullet hit it in the barrel.

I'd guess there are so many bullets sacking in the dirt behind the target that one got rear ended by another bullet and bounced back on the ground.

rc

 

[Jim K]

Or somebody is sitting out there right now saying, "I'll be that will drive the experts nuts!"

Jim

 

[Tony k]

Looks like someone tried to tap a squib out of a barrel with a hollow tube/rod. They tried it from both ends. That's my guess.

 

[GarySTL]

Looks like someone tried to tap a squib out of a barrel with a hollow tube/rod. They tried it from both ends. That's my guess.

That's a good guess too. I'd not considered an attack from both ends.

I don't have any information on what really happened. I just thought it was interesting.

 

[WestKentucky]

Both ends theory...with the wrong tool.

 

[rcmodel]

Fired in a Dardick?

Or somebody loaded a stack of pistol bullets in a shotgun shell?

rc

 

[rhinoh]

It looks to not be round- seems that would mean it didn't come out of the barrel like that.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I've managed to mash two 45 acp fmj's together into one big heap of copper and lead. The bullets were totally mangled though, and I dug them out of the dirt.

 

[BCRider]

It looks to not be round- seems that would mean it didn't come out of the barrel like that.

Or it may be a sign of someone testing out the new ultra secret figure 8 rifling and Siamese matching cartridges..... *looks over the shoulder and listens for the approaching black helicopters*....

 

[tdstout]

I've dug out two 40 cal bullets from my backstop that hit each other. They were a lot more mashed up than that one though.

 

[VA27]

Looks like someone tried to tap a squib out of a barrel with a hollow tube/rod. They tried it from both ends. That's my guess.

Cleaning rod.

 

[GarySTL]

I guess I was too quick to jump on a less likely explanation rather than think of more likely ones. As they tell doctors, when you hear hoof beats think horses, not zebras!

 

[BlindJustice]

Well, don't shoot into a stack firewood
where the large round flats/cut side A
friend shooting a Model 60 .357 Mag with
WWB .38 Spcl 130 gr. FP TMC She shot
the target tacked to the firewood cut side
I was sitting there to the side and next shot
she flinched and I saw something go past her
Left ear - well, it actually touched her left ear
and the host found it. It was the first bullet
which had stuck in the wood She hit the back
end of it and it came back. The bullet at the
base was spread evenly = great shot but we
were dummies with that backstop that day. The
Host had used it before but with .22s

Randall

 

[rogdigity]

Measure the circles against a cleaning rod. Simplest answers...

 

[leadcounsel]

I doubt it.

A squib would have no marks on the nose unless someone tried to drive it out.

And it wouldn't be Figure-8 shaped if another bullet hit it in the barrel.

I'd guess there are so many bullets sacking in the dirt behind the target that one got rear ended by another bullet and bounced back on the ground.

rc

This.

I'd also say that the mature lands and grooves support that it was probably fired all the way through the barrel, and not a squib forced out.

The figure 8 shape would have occurred outside the barrel IMO. It was in the dirt and hit by another possibly smaller caliber round like a .380 fmj.

I've seen bullets fused together from various battles. Pretty random and cool.

http://paradoxoff.com/french-and-russian-bullets-collided-in-flight.html

 

[herkyguy]

Is there any possibility that someone melted the two bullets together after they were shot??

Kinda looks like one was dropped right into the other.

 

[rcmodel]

No.

They collided in flight.

There is no way you can melt two lead bullets and solder them together without both of them melting before they become molten and fuse together.

There have been numerous bullets found on battlefields all over the world that the only possible explanation for is the collided in flight and fused together instantly without completely melting.

A very interesting artifact has been found at a number of American Civil War battlefields, including Gettysburg. What is this artifact? It is made up of one Union and one Confederate bullet, the two bullets met in mid flight between the two lines and fused together. There are a number of such "fused" bullets on display in Civil War museums across the country. One such bullet sold for over 1000 dollars in September of 2012.

rc

 

[rogdigity]

Is there any possibility that someone melted the two bullets together after they were shot??

Kinda looks like one was dropped right into the other.

Did you mean the bullet from the original picture? Or the two bullets from the link?

 

[newfalguy101]

Both ends theory...with the wrong tool.

perhaps the "wrong" tool, however, based on the fact the bullet was found on the ground, it musta worked....

 

[rcmodel]

Still wondering if it was found under the bench on the firing line?

Or in the dirt behind the targets.

By the bench?
Somebody had a squib and drove it out.

By the berm?
One bullet hit another bullet in the butt and they bounced out on the ground.

rc

 

[GarySTL]

I found it under the bench, so it could have been driven out. But it's our training Bay, so it could have been picked up and brought back to be examined.. Now I'm leaning heavily on a squib driven in both directions.

 

[SDC]

This bullet looks like a 147-gr Ranger JHP; what round does your department use? Given the base markings, this was almost certainly a squib that was pounded through.