TimM
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lmao
It's nice to have a good laugh in here once in a while.
It's nice to have a good laugh in here once in a while.
Upset the wife about 330 this morning...
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Hungry Seagull
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We use code words and Order of Day process with communications via cell all the time.
Should something get out of kilter Im the one that tends to be the hunter, decision maker etc while the spouse does what she needs to do.
Little things help. In the morning coming back from mail, code word is used and I dont advance into dwelling until I hear counter code. When I do, I greet wife and thank her so that I dont get shot getting the mail.
Little things like reinforcing and keeping small drills in mind from time to time is better than allowing the situation to degrade into one big sleepy fat dumb couple with a few guns thrown into the closet.
Come to think of it, it's been VERY peaceful around these parts now that several more households are armed this year. Not so many random... drive ups pretending to be lost.
Should something get out of kilter Im the one that tends to be the hunter, decision maker etc while the spouse does what she needs to do.
Little things help. In the morning coming back from mail, code word is used and I dont advance into dwelling until I hear counter code. When I do, I greet wife and thank her so that I dont get shot getting the mail.
Little things like reinforcing and keeping small drills in mind from time to time is better than allowing the situation to degrade into one big sleepy fat dumb couple with a few guns thrown into the closet.
Come to think of it, it's been VERY peaceful around these parts now that several more households are armed this year. Not so many random... drive ups pretending to be lost.
Webbj0219
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Hey, at least you got a good chance to test out that flashlight. I wasnt sure how good those surefire lights were. I think you just sold me on them. Thank you
rscalzo
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You knew the dogs were there but didn't miss your wife??? What's wrong with this picture?
rscalzo
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You knew the dogs were there but didn't miss your wife??? What's wrong with this picture?
Norinco982lover
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Flowers. Do it.
Thank her for participating in your successful training scenario: your reactions were correct, your equipment performed admirably, and the subject was incapacited.
Remind her that could just as easily have been an intruder, and that your actions demonstrate your love and concern for your family.
Remind her that could just as easily have been an intruder, and that your actions demonstrate your love and concern for your family.
TexasRifleman
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Absolutely. Weapon lights are not optional.
But it is kind of a funny story
Hungry Seagull
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Dont offer to use the very bright weapon lights while looking for something in the home. Get a big flashlight instead.
Spooked the spouse when I was around a corner aiming into a dark corner once. Looking for a stupid bolt that got away.
Spooked the spouse when I was around a corner aiming into a dark corner once. Looking for a stupid bolt that got away.
SpecialKalltheway
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since when does shinning a light on someone make it likely that you are going to shoot them?
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Too funny. I finally got my mother to realize that if she sets off my grandmother's burglar alarm (next door) for whatever reason, she needs to immediately go back inside and call me. If I hear that alarm go off, and don't get a call, I'm going over there armed.
Why do I have this system? Because my mother is, shall we say, not the most competent of individuals and she tends to set the alarm off a lot, largely because she turns the alarm on when it doesn't need to be on but lacks the sense to check it to make sure it's off before she opens the door (please don't mistake my genuine exasperation for rudeness; she does this almost daily but never learns). She set this house's alarm off coming in a couple of days ago (there is never, EVER any excuse for setting it off coming in. There's a nice red LED next to the door that indicates it's on), didn't yell that it was her, and was surprised to see me charging out, Ruger GP100 in hand. She still doesn't get why I'm genuinely annoyed when she does crap like that, or understand why you don't freaking do that.
Why do I have this system? Because my mother is, shall we say, not the most competent of individuals and she tends to set the alarm off a lot, largely because she turns the alarm on when it doesn't need to be on but lacks the sense to check it to make sure it's off before she opens the door (please don't mistake my genuine exasperation for rudeness; she does this almost daily but never learns). She set this house's alarm off coming in a couple of days ago (there is never, EVER any excuse for setting it off coming in. There's a nice red LED next to the door that indicates it's on), didn't yell that it was her, and was surprised to see me charging out, Ruger GP100 in hand. She still doesn't get why I'm genuinely annoyed when she does crap like that, or understand why you don't freaking do that.
So Threeband, where did I go wrong tactically that I need more training?
I did not draw on her, I did not point my gun at her. In fact, as I wrote initially, I did not even have my gun in hand.
Instead I used my light to ID my target and determined that it was her and not a threat. Thanks to this simple, proven tactic I'm much LESS likely to shoot a member of my own family.
Perhaps instead of relying on a sound, simple tactic like using a light to ID my target, I should have grabbed my gun, blindly leapt out of bed, tripped over the dogs, bounced off the wall into the partially open door slamming it into her face as she's reaching it on the other side, sending her backwards over the banister causing her to fall 12 feet to the bottom of the stairs. Then, once I got up from the floor, found my gun and the door knob, cleared the hallway in the dark and staggered my way down the stairs where I would find a still unidentified broken and battered body lying there, my next tactical move would be to yell to my wife to call 911 while I held the body at gun point and groped for the light switch so I could see who it is. And when I finally had some light and I could see it was her I would still end up saying, "Christ, I could have shot you! What were you doing out of bed?!:banghead:
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BTW, thanks to all for the suggestions and responses. I didn't go with flowers but she came home to a clean house, a great dinner, some good wine, and all was forgotten. So, everything turned out fine in the end, she's not mad and she knows I'm keeping an eye on things and not just buying all these goodies because their tacticool or for work. Also, I've already tried the butt check suggestion and it works great except she slaps my hand away after the fourth or fifth check and tells me to leave her alone and let her sleep! Once again showing her lack of appreciation for my tactics.
I wasn't talking about what you did. I was talking about what you said you said:
That sounds like a very natural thing to say under the circumstances, but I'm hoping that there was really no possibility of that happening. But by saying that, you run the risk of giving her the mistaken impression that you actually might get off a hasty shot at a dimly misperceived figure.
Of course the Million Brady Moms are always claiming that any gun is 743% more likely to be misused is just such a mistaken shooting, than it is to thwart an actual crime. Pure bogus-ness, of course, but you TOLD your wife that there was a possibility that you COULD have shot her.
That might make her a little nervous.
That might get her thinking, "Maybe those nice people at the Brady Campaign are right..."
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But apparently not, so all is well. I like your alternative scenario, by the way. It's good to have a plan B. And keep working on the Butt Check.
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That sounds like a very natural thing to say under the circumstances, but I'm hoping that there was really no possibility of that happening. But by saying that, you run the risk of giving her the mistaken impression that you actually might get off a hasty shot at a dimly misperceived figure.
Of course the Million Brady Moms are always claiming that any gun is 743% more likely to be misused is just such a mistaken shooting, than it is to thwart an actual crime. Pure bogus-ness, of course, but you TOLD your wife that there was a possibility that you COULD have shot her.
That might make her a little nervous.
That might get her thinking, "Maybe those nice people at the Brady Campaign are right..."
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But apparently not, so all is well. I like your alternative scenario, by the way. It's good to have a plan B. And keep working on the Butt Check.
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It's already been stated on here numerous times, but I'll go ahead and state the procedure at our house:
When either one of us gets out of bed we reach over and make physical contact with the other one and tell them where we are going.
If we enter the bedroom after the other spouse has gone to bed we verbally identify ourself when we open the door. If I have to go out on a call in the middle of the night, I call her when I'm on my way home.
Trust me, it's safer this way. My wife keeps a pistol on her side of the bed and can use it.
When either one of us gets out of bed we reach over and make physical contact with the other one and tell them where we are going.
If we enter the bedroom after the other spouse has gone to bed we verbally identify ourself when we open the door. If I have to go out on a call in the middle of the night, I call her when I'm on my way home.
Trust me, it's safer this way. My wife keeps a pistol on her side of the bed and can use it.
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