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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by BSA1, Oct 8, 2019.

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  1. Robbins290

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    I have not used "urban" camo. But plenty of wooded camo. And my rifle gets painted between the seasons. I would say use colors of where you plan on hiding. Some red thrown in if you will be near red brick buildings. Concrete colors would be the best, broken with what ever color will be around in the location you plan in being in.
     
  2. doubleh

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    Nice. I like it.

    I did a seriously tweaked 10/22 that I built a stock for in a different color scheme. A light blue base with black, red, purple, and white blended around for the camo effect with a final clear coat for protrction. I've had a number of compliments at the range and had a guy ask to to take pictures of it a couple of weeks ago.
     
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    hdwhit,

    go to AK103K's post #33 in this thread. Notice how he was discussing camo for the weapon so as to reduce its appearance, to reduce the likely hood of it being noticed ....this is what I was talking about sleeves for, so the weapon would blend with the "serge de nimes" back ground of the three hundred pound jeans jacket wearing Moosoid carrying it.

    This topic is confussing as sometimes we are talking about camo for a person and other times camo for a rifle.

    In the service we noted that folks often got spotted because of their weapons and caught some flak from higher ups for such things as strips of OD green duck tape in the summer on M16A1 rifles and strips of two inch white bandage tape in the winter. A couple of us ever wraped strips of white bed sheet around out rifles in winter or made sleeves for them. A buddy sewed a little tube to go over his rifle from front sight post to flash hider of camo cloth and sort of a bag with pull ties for his stock. All those things seemed to help... and were poked fun at by others.

    Look at the rifles in post #39...AK103K is showing us some good stuff. Suppose he had run his long color bands on the camo rifle up and down rather than vertically....it would be even harder to pick out in that grass!

    I think AK 103K should be paid attention to guys!

    I always thought one of the real eye openers in basic training at all levels was the course where we were to just look for folks in a large area. You had a little post mounted pointer to aim at the stationary folks so the instructors could see if you saw them. The instructors would ask why you saw them. the answers were usually movement and saw the weapon. Real life is not like a movie where the director has a camera zoom in on potential targets for you you've got to find them your self from your typical 200 degee x 150 degree field of view...with no zoom close ups!

    If you ARE the target you want to do all you can to make spotting harder. Camo, even something as simple as making your rifle harder to pick out helps.

    -kBob
     
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  4. Garandimal

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    Like woodland, you could also tailor it to a specific urban surrounding.

    For major urban areas, say San Francisco...?

    ...you could just cover it in feces/drug syringes/used condoms.




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  5. BSA1

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    This is a gun forum so my question is about what colors and patterns are useful for camouflaging a rifle in a urban setting. As usual a few posters fell off the rail by not staying on topic.

    The picture AK103K posted is excellent. Even though his AK does not have green for camouflage it is still harder to pick out that the all black one.

    The exterior of many new office buildings and home are shades of brown, sand and limestone along with red brick exteriors and gray concrete sidewalks, driveways and parking lots.

    I am thinking about making a cardboard cutout(s) of a long gun then experiment with some shades of gray, blue and even a little bit of red then putting it outside to see how effective it is.
     
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    No need, with PG&E in BK and doing rotational blackouts across northern CA, basic black will work fine....... :thumbup::neener::D
     
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  8. 4v50 Gary

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    Wearing camouflage pattern in the city will draw attention to you. Go with medium to light gray and black. Walk in the shadows and if you must be seen, be the gray man.
     
  9. BigBore44

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    I guess I don’t understand the purpose. If I’m in an urban area and need to be hidden from prying or public eyes, I’m just going to go in a building. Why try to hide outside? There’s a reason snipers in urban areas don’t lay in the street.

    If I’m just trying to hide my firearm, I’m going to pick a weapon of smaller profile and wear larger, concealing clothes like a jacket.
     
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  10. blue32

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    Flat gray with a stenciled zimmerit pattern of slightly darker gray or olive. A silicone baking sheet would probably work for the stencil so you could wrap around curves and bends.
     
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  11. Shanghai McCoy

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    From what I saw tonight down in "Larryville" you'll need to tattoo the pattern onto the rifle instead of paint it... ;)
     
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    Toyota has decided it's dark grey. County sheriff agrees.

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  13. Skylerbone

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    I still think sometimes in plain sight is what makes things less obvious even when it screams look at me. A poster mailing tube over the barrel with a Fragile sticker and you could pass it off as a gas leak detection meter. Or photographic equipment.


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    Laser level indicator? Transit level?
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    Anything that looks less like what people expect. Reminds me of those evolution posters.
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  14. Random 8

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    Did some searching, and apparently (I'm not going to link it as the page has content unsuitable for the forum), a D-handle spade makes a serviceable stock for and AK type rifle. With some creativity, it wouldn't be hard to make the rest look like a common piece of construction equipment.
     
  15. Varminterror

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    Concealment and camouflage are different things.

    Camouflage is meant to be seen, but unrecognized.

    Concealed objects are meant to go unseen.

    If you’re in an “urban environment” with a rifle, the game is over as soon as someone sees it. While the game might be of interest, it’s really not productive. Sling a rifle on your back, matching your jacket, and you might walk an unoccupied block and deceive others standing block length away, but passing someone in the street without being identified is not realistic.
     
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  16. theotherwaldo

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    -Then there's misdirection.
    I've seen guns decorated up like nerf and airsoft guns, complete with orange muzzles.
    I've also seen them tucked into golf bags and grocery carts
     
  17. marsofold

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    Just ghillei the thing with random length shredded trash bags! :cool:
     
  18. Varminterror

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    So you’re saying you have seen guys walking around downtown with a nerf clone rifle tucked into a golf bag, not raising any alarm, because the rifles were so cleverly camouflaged...?
     
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    Nope.
    I've seen photos of these guns and other, less imaginative attempts at subterfuge in our local chief of police's album. These had been confiscated at my town's international bridge.
     
  20. Varminterror

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    Burning a little brain before bed tonight, noticed these in Bad Boys II from 2003.

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  21. Meeks36

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    Saw a guy on a TV show. Drugs inc. maybe. He turned a pg 500 into a super soaker look alike. Painted it orange blue had a tank on top. One could make or buy a single shot cane gun. Saw one at the FBI museum in DC. Single shot 12ga.
     
  22. TikkaShooter

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    I've seen a variety of cammo patterns in the urban/suburban environment and they all attract attention. The purpose of camouflage is to blend into the environment.
    Today, we went to the grocery store. As we live about 12 miles from a very small town, the local grocery store lacks no firearms signs on the doors. My cammo was blue jeans, sneakers and a loose tee shirt with 9mm.
    As I blended in with everyone else; my cammo was 100% effective.
     
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  23. Varminterror

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    This.

    In urban environments, like trips to my corporate offices or research centers, I’m typically wearing a sport coat with my G19 IWB SOB, and my LCP on my ankle. No concern with someone recognizing my nerf clone as a real firearm, no concern about someone calling the police or alerting security because it’s still weird for a grown man to walk around downtown with a toy gun. Just a guy going about his business, blending in with the normal hustle and bustle, drawing no attention, as nothing is out of place.
     
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    I live in rural NE Georgia where I can carry a firearm. When I was employed, I carried a "pocket" pistol as it was a lot better than a sharp stick. :D

    X2 on blending in is without doubt the best cammo that exists.
     
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