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Urgent: Cleaning Rod Stuck in Bore.

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by LJ-MosinFreak-Buck, Jul 1, 2012.

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  1. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

    LJ-MosinFreak-Buck Member

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    Just gonna let S&W deal with it, lol, but gotta wait until payday.


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  2. tritonguy

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    Well, you've come this far, don't give up yet! Try some Drano crystals dissolved in water. It's caustic (high pH) and will dissolve aluminum quite well without affecting the steel of the barrel. I'd try a tiny bit first on any plastic that might it might contact. Just be sure to do it in a well ventilated place. There'll be plenty of heat and some hydrogen gas!!!
     
  3. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    Don't want any chemical burns now lol. And will it desolve brass, too? I doubt I could get any in there, it would just sit in the first inch from the crown.


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    Following this thread has been the most excitement I've had all day.
    Good luck, LJ, I'm rooting for ya!
     
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  5. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    Lol thanks, Cav. SW IA? SE? NW? NE? Central? lol
     
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    Good luck, LJ! I'm rooting for you as well. You're being a great sport about this; very High Road of you. There might be a lesson in there for the rest of us as well. Come to think of it, I've made a few mistakes before myself. Plus, as you pointed out, the rifle came to you with the cleaning rod stuck. Good luck! :cool:

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  7. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    Oh, I forgot to mention, the brush on the end of the rod is bare, it is .22, and it was brand-spankin' new, just picked up from Walmart. The rods are actually Brass, and not aluminum as stated earlier.

    I couldn't get any solvent to go down the bore, the baggie I had filled with solvent was filled to the same capacity as before... lol.

    And thanks, P51D, I'm trying lol.
     
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    I am rooting for you, too...

    I think a lot of people will learn from the end result.


    Maybe put the barrel in a vice and use a small winch (some people call them a "come-along") to pull the rod (clamped with vice grips or something)? Just an idea. I'm pretty sure the penetrating oil wouldn't hurt, either.
     
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    If you know any machine shops... hydraulic press.
     
  10. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    Vice grips keep pullin away material


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    Clamp the rod in a good biting vice, then tug on the barrel.
     
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    It's getting confusing what kinds of things you've already tried, and I have zero experience with this kind of thing. New to guns myself anyways.

    But just saying, if I were in your shoes, I might try to boil up some real hot water, and stick the whole thing in, and try to twist and turn the rod out with a pair of pliers at the end.

    Really hot water often does magical unexplainable things, when gear gets stuck, and is a fairly clean method.

    This is, of course, assuming all that pounding has not made whatever is going on inside the bore harder to "unstick."
     
  13. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    Well I managed to find a way to keep the solvent in the barrel using an old bottle of lighter fluid, the baggie with solvent idea didn't work as solvent just ate through. Can't help but feel like I was trolled there lol.

    So since I have to wait until next Thursday to send her off, I'll be trying all sorts of things by myself.


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    If I understand you correctly, you have a piece of a rod stuck in both ends of the barrel with the brush attached to the end that is pushed in the muzzle.

    Are both pieces of the rod stuck in flush or just the one in the muzzle? can you stick the rod that is in the breech end in a vise and pull it out of the barrel? If you can find a way to get that piece out, at least you could get the chemicals to the brush or you could try a stiffer rod from the breech end. Short pieces of 3/16" brass rod would do better than one long piece since the long piece will just bend.
     
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    I must admit to enjoying some Schadenfreude. So there's another opportunity for a learning experience from this thread. Just look up the meaning of the word.

    Good luck, LJ.
     
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    If parts of the rod are sticking out of both sides (?) try to seriously clamp a vicegrip to the rod sideways and then hammer the side of the vicegrip with about a three pound doublejack.. try to pound the rod out, not in.

    You can do it!
     
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    Maybe you could hook it up with electricity so that electrolysis will erode the rod.

    You can do it!
     
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    Okay, well there's one rod stuck in the bore now, from muzzle end. And a beater rod stuck in the bore, chamber end. I tried using vice-grips to hammer out the beater rod, but it just snapped the rod almost flush with the receiver, can only get vice-grips around it now lengthwise. And it slips a lot.

    Electro---? How do I go about doing that?


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    I am not sure electrolysis will work because the entire thing, with barrel, is conductive. And it probably will erode first at the point where you connect the rod with the wires. This is all tangential anyway.
     
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    Well I have solvent sitting in the barrel crown end, but not sure if it'll seep down to the brush at all so...


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    You need to use a strong copper solvent for any results in the near future. I would try KG-12, but Butch's Bore Shine or Sweets-7.62 wouldn't be horrible choices either (and you can usually find them locally, KG-12 not so much). Just do NOT let any of the above sit on plastic (that goes for most any other decent bore cleaner too)!

    :)
     
  22. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    Well, I changed solvent before leaving for work, it was colored green. I don't know if it was actually working, though, because it was just sitting on top of the rod stuck in the bore, I don't think it seeped. I'm running out of ideas, but I am praying for a miracle that I don't have to send it off, and that it'll come out here soon...

    Well, one can dream, anyways.
     
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    You'd be hard pressed to seal it up tight enough to prevent the solvent from creeping all the way down the barrel. Green means it's working, I'd keep at it and see where it goes.

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  24. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

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    See, I kind-of figured it was, because I noticed brass gets the greenish color in oxidation that copper does, so I figured if it's just the outside of the rods that are getting the solvent, and the more that comes off, the better it'll be. But at the same time, it could just be some of the copper plating that some of the .22 rounds have that he put through. Just have to wait and see.
     
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    Would be a terrible choice.

    Any ammonia bearing copper solvent strong enough to eat a brass cleaning rod 16" deep will ruin the barrel if left in it long enough to do it.

    rc
     
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