Urgent: Cleaning Rod Stuck in Bore.

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Upper cracked. All that beating and nothing. A simple fall, cracked. Modern gun "technology" is just a joke. This is the reason I prefer wood-and-steel hardware. I'll post a pic in a minute, I had it hanging barrel-up from my ammo cabinet and it fell, cracked the rear of the upper.


~On The Road Again...~
 
A fall from your ammo cabinet would just as likely have broken a wood stock.

It seems to me you are really having a lot of unnecessary trouble with this.

Through no fault of the rifle, or what it is made from.

rc
 
Well you probably could have made a 100% fail-proof hanger wire out of a cloths hanger too.

But you didn't.

rc
 
RC, yeah I do regret not making some sort of pin to lock the rifle on it. Oh well. Live and learn. I'll probably send it off, have it fixed, and put it up for sale or trade. I'd rather have an AK.
 
Laughter, anger, confusion... Ha. Just isn't worth it to me anymore. I'll get it fixed, but it'll probably be hitting the trading post here when it's fixed, unless I can get a deal here locally.
 
Just thought I'd give you guys a little bit of an update.

Rod is still stuck, but I did get the one I got stuck in there trying to get the first one out. Not sure if I told y'all I got the second one out, but there's only the first rod and the brush stuck in there.

Couple days ago me and a buddy made a barrel nut wrench, and we removed the barrel and tried running it through a 12 ton press using some mild-steel 3/16" rod. Sadly, the rod bent before it pushed the brush anywhere. So, I'm at a loss.

We put the gun back together so I could send it off to S&W, set it on his work bench to take a break when his girlfriend came home and backed their truck into their garage. Well, she backed up too far and knocked the upper off the work bench, and I don't know how, but it ended up snapping the forearm rails away from the receiver.

I tried calling S&W to see if they'd send me a replacement upper, but it was a no-go. They said they wouldn't do it at all, and now I'm pissed, because the only part of this rifle that works is the lower, and ever-so-thoughtful S&W made it so no other upper or lower can work with their M&P15-22 series rifles.

So, I'm sitting on my hands, not a thing I can do. Thankfully, I didn't spend a lot of money at all. But they will NOT be getting my business in the future.
 
Can you drive a wooden stake through it and bury it in the yard with a clove of garlic?
I think Someone is telling you not to fire that rifle.
 
I'm not going to go all the way back through this 160+ page thread, but I've been following it since the summer . . .

Pardon me, but didn't Smith & Wesson offer to replace your upper, all they required was that you send it to them?


Hard to blame S&W for something you did wrong. If that polymer upper dropped hard enough to crack it, it would have bent a metal one. And I'm not even going to go into the frantics you went into trying to dislodge your stuck rod. I can't imagine how you managed to do that, but some patience might have been helpful trying to fix it. I have to wonder if the things you attempted didn't make the situation worse.

Anyway, I can't blame that on S&W. You can if you want, and you have a right to that opinion. I have the exact rifle you do and I love it. I've used it to train dozens of brand new shooters, most of them women. They loved it, too.
 
Pardon me, but didn't Smith & Wesson offer to replace your upper, all they required was that you send it to them?
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They did when I talked to them first. I called back earlier this week and they said that I couldn't buy an upper from them at all. Even a replacement if I sent the upper I have in. Guy said his boss told him no. I'm thinking about calling again and speaking to a manager.

I loved the rifle when I was able to shoot it, I was able to shoot it the very day I brought it home, granted it was before the rod got stuck. I will clarify that it was not of my actions that got the brush stuck in there in the first place, but one of my buddies who, since then, hasn't been allowed to clean anything of mine. He's just sent to pick up brass and trash.

I'm not really blaming them, per se, but what I am irritated about is the fact that I'm offering to pay for a new upper for a replacement for the one that is ruined now. What's really bothering me is the fact that I now have half a firearm and no foreseeable way to get it in running condition anymore.
 
Goodness, that rifles been dropped, hit by a truck, and plugged up something fierce!
A careful owner, are you? Lol. The truck part was my favorite.
Please, you gotta let us know what happens next...
 
As you may know by now, never ever reverse direction of a brush in the bore. If the brush is stuck and mild impacts don't dislodge it you should consider destroying the brush. If solvents don't work you can make a tool from mild steel tubing to try to twist the brush. If it is close to one end of the barrel you can try a needle nose pliers. You can also make teeth on one end of the same tubing and use it as a hole saw to destroy the bristles. Just a thought. Being a little gonzo myself, I have learned to know my limits save myself grief and destruction of what I'm trying to fix and call on someone with know how and tools. You should have followed S&W advise and offer. Instead you pissed them off. Lessons we all learn sooner or later. It is just part of life to do things the hard way.
 
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