US Army looking for new pistol?

[aerod1]

It also depends on which company slips some high ranking officer the most money under the table.
The Army has known the best cartridge since 1911.

Jim

 

[fistful]

Ooh, will it be my favorite gun, the Ruger Blackhawk? Oooh! Why don't we just see what happens, and not argue as if we had a direct line to the procurement folks?

 

[Fed168]

How about fixing what is broken on the M9 in the first place? Or is it time to spend money again?

 

[theCZ]

I personally know a top army brass person/ninja. He told me through my ESP implant that they have been buying up mass quantities of old webley revolvers to replace the M9 with. Shhhsshhh, it's a secret still!

 

[Frandy]

No way they'll go back to a Browning design...

I'd bet my arsenal on it. If (big IF, too) they do go with a .45 anytime soon (5 years), it will be a newer generation firearm. Perhaps synthetic but definitely something more like an HK USP or Sig 220 style. DAO? I hope not, but if the mechanism is similar to my XD or the HK 2000, might be a smart move.

Personally, I see the HK USP line as the best (that's the world, according to me), but wouldn't it be sumthumb if they want to go American? Smith? Ruger? Hmmmm... We shall see. We shall see.

Dan Wesson Patriot
HK USP Compact 45
Sig 226
Sig (Hammerli) Traiside
XD-9 Subcompact
Beretta Stampede
Ruger GP100
Ruger SS Six

 

[TheFederalistWeasel]

Get ready for another big glock contract.

HK45, bacsically a P2000 in .45, there are pics over on hkpro.com where it's already being tested by the military.

 

[Mulliga]

Isn't the main problem with the Berettas our troops are using the magazines? I've never heard so many problems from civilian Beretta users in the U.S.

 

[Curare]

You're not referring to the COTS HK Tactical Compact in .45 being looked at by NSW, are you?

 

[SunBear]

It WAS being considered by NSW. It has NOW been adopted. VIVE 45 ACP.

 

[jeff-10]

If they want to go metric again add 1 mm and make it a 10mm.

 

[tango3065]

I'll almost bet that it will be a HK.

 

[HungSquirrel]

Get ready for another big glock contract.

Somehow, I doubt it. Glock has been pretty hesitant to license out their design, something that would be required of a widely-issued US armed forces sidearm, particularly in wartime. Furthermore, let's not forget some of the things Glocks have going against them that armies tend to be skittish of (lack of external safety, no visible hammer, etc.). Don't get me wrong, I think Glocks would make great service pistols and would certainly be better than the status quo, particularly for their ease of maintenance. But I don't see the Army biting.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Or is it time to spend money again?

Always. Squandering billions is one of the few things government consistently does well.

 

[HungSquirrel]

Hey, maybe we'll get a bunch of cheap surplus M9s hitting the market.

 

[shoot870p]

surplus?

I doubt that. too many friends need them overseas. Look how long it took for the M1 to be released for sale.
just my ramblings...

 

[71Commander]

I'm bettin an XD-40. Grip safety and all.

 

[jc2]

I think HK with their USPc .45 ACP with LEM trigger probably has the edge this time. The SEAL Teams are in the process of dumping their SIGs for it, HK received the larger portion of the DHS contract, and all reports from the AOR seem to be positive on USP.

 

[BluesBear]

Hey, maybe we'll get a bunch of cheap surplus M9s hitting the market.

Yeah just like that bunch of .45s that hit the market* when the M9 was adopted.






*the SCRAP METAL market.

 

[MuzzleBlast]

Deja-vu all over again. We found out in the Philippines in 1898 that .36 caliber bullets won't stop fanatical Islamic killers. Surprise, surprise, surprise: In 2004, .36 caliber bullets STILL won't stop fanatical Islamic killers.
maybe the .40 S&W will become the new NATO standard.

 

[bnolsen]

The military should look at 10mm as an option also, especially if there's a perceived need to penetrate light body armor. 10mm has the best SD of all the common auto-loader rounds.

That and 10mm makes a pretty awesom sub round.

 

[NMshooter]

At the risk of spoiling all the fun, does it really matter who uses what pistol?

All the folks complaining about standards for CCW permits have never seen a military training/qualification class.

Especially an Air Force class.

Not that the other services are any better, when it comes to pistols.

I would rather spend millions teaching people to shoot than giving them a new wonder pistol and expecting things to change.

 

[JoeRapture]

Looks like a good opportunity for Sig to pitch the P220.

 

[jc2]

While the 10mm might make a neat sub round, that is a weapon system, that as a whole, is down and out. I don't see the military going back to subs in the near future.

As for a SD round, the 10 really doesn't distinguish itself from any of the service cartridges--and certainly not in a FMJ configuration which is what you are looking at with the military.

 

[stans]

10mm is a great option, highly versatile caliber, and I like it a lot, but I expect you'd hear the troops moaning just like some of the FBI special agents about excessive recoil. I think the U.S. military would be well served with a sidearm chambered in 40 S&W using a truncated cone style FMJ bullet or the trusty 45 ACP, again perhaps they could go to a truncated cone style bullet.

Will it actually happen? Sure, but probably not for another 20 years or so, Congress has to give the Pentagon enough money for these things and right now the money is being spent on combat operations.

As for funding, whatever happened to the war bonds? I thought Congress approved a war bond proposal shortly after September 11, 2001, haven't seen any yet. I wanted to buy some as it would have probably been a pretty good investment.

 

[jc2]

We have had trouble supplying the AOR with 9x19 ammo (had to buy some from Israel--big stink as you can imagine). What would it be like to have supply them with 10mm--not exactly something you can purchase from a friendly ally.