USA SIGs quality not as good as in the past?

[Lonestar49]

I looked at the site for 229 .40 springs and they listed a category for P229 .40/.357Sig...P250 (etc) as if they all use the same spring. They did not list differing strength options and or colors coordinating with those strength options. Can anyone point me in the right direction for multi-coil, different strength Sig P229 .40 springs?
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Throughout the years, my P229n/r 40 return replacement springs have had the blue ends.

But I do not use them in the 357sig applications..


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Ls

 

[Ala Dan]

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The U.S. made and assembled slide on the SIGARMS P229 is to damn top
heavy; when compared to and all German made and assembled (1990)
SIG-SAUER P228.

The so called ergonomic frame of the P226 does not fit me as well as say
the German made and assembled .45 caliber P220A, or the same P228.

*FootNote: Both, my West German made and assembled .45 caliber P220A
and my West German made and assembled 9mm P228 have German "Proof
Markings". I doubt seriously that you will find any German markings on the
American/German weapons~? :banghead:

 

[rellascout]

The U.S. made and assembled slide on the SIGARMS P229 is to damn top heavy; when compared to and all German made and assembled (1990)
SIG-SAUER P228.

Completely subjective. It feels that way to you and me but I am willing to bet that is because we shot the P228 first not that it is inherently better.

E2 grips is a modification which IMHO they should have not made standard but again it seems to be a matter of preference.

Of course there are no German markings on the German/US made guns because they are not required. I own a P228 which was assembled here and lacks proof marks and it is not inferior in anyway to my W German marked ones.

Again I am critical of Sig but this thread is about changes in quality not subjective changes to the existing guns.

 

[silversport]

Completely subjective. It feels that way to you and me but I am willing to bet that is because we shot the P228 first not that it is inherently better.

E2 grips is a modification which IMHO they should have not made standard but again it seems to be a matter of preference.

Of course there are no German markings on the German/US made guns because they are not required. I own a P228 which was assembled here and lacks proof marks and it is not inferior in anyway to my W German marked ones.

Again I am critical of Sig but this thread is about changes in quality not subjective changes to the existing guns.

+1...the slide feels top heavy because the milled stainless slide is heavier (and heavier duty) than our beloved stamped, folded and pinned to a breach block steel slides...

...all of my SiGs have been runners...some West German marked (2 X P220's in .45ACP, P226 in 9MM, P225 in 9MM, P228 in 9MM...P230 in .380ACP) and some marked Germany and Exeter...(P220 Compact in .45ACP, P226 in .357SiG, P229 in .357SiG, P239 in 9MM)...556...SiGARMS GSR Revolution STX...

...I don't agree with everything SiG has done through the years, SiGARMS and SiG Sauer's "Customer Service" unless you get to talk with Victoria...but overall, I think the quality is there...perhaps I have just been pretty lucky...added that I have had problems (like you might with anything built by man) but the issues have been taken care of with little drama...

Bill

 

[Prion]

I agree w/ silversport, CS was great the one time I needed it for a cosmetic finish issue on a slide which was refinished free of charge. My four new-era Sigs have been great through thousands, not hundreds, of rounds.

I agree that they have a cheesy website and the 'flavor of the month' is tiresome.

I like the armorers DVDs and the parts kits they sell.

As 9mmepiphany points out their double strand springs are superior so I guess they aren't cutting corners everywhere.

The mim argument is not really an issue to me because the parts don't fail.

If quality control has slacked that should be addressed.

Just wanted to point out that Sig does have some very happy customers who love their new products.

 

[Micro]

I've owned a Browning BDA and a Sig 226 (W German made). I currently own all newer Sigs (220R Stainless Elite, 220R, 220R Carry and 229R).

My pistols with the folded slides did feel a bit better in the hand. They don't feel as top heavy. However, I really believe that is the only area where they are superior to the guns with milled slides. There is no difference in reliability that I have seen. The milled slide guns are easier to keep clean and have reduced susceptibility to corrosion. I also think the frames on the older guns had some finish issues. My 226 developed an inexplicable browning in its corners and nooks-n-crannies (the color of rust) and lost finish on the inside of the dust cover. The inside of the frame had an iridescent hue that looked like oil on water. It was never problematic, but it did look odd. And I've seen other older Sigs that looked that way.

In terms of quality, the older guns were already well developed when they were imported into the US. Newer models had hiccups until their anomalies were worked out. I think this produced a perception that newer guns were less reliable than older ones. But I doubt that's the case. I haven't seen it. I actually prefer the new P series guns to the old ones.