Very serious Question.

[Arkel23]

I guess this is the place to post on this forum, If someone leaves you a few Bible verses, and they seem to be threats to kill you, because they only selected 1 verse out of many of God's good Book, would this be something to take to the Police? This guy is REALLY pushing it, so just pray for me and my family our safety. He is lower than the scum of the earth, this guy is the devil himself, and he's just pushing it farther and farther.

 

[eight433]

If he is leaving you unsolicited readings, I would take that in itself as a threat. I would definitely let the police know that he is harassing you, that way if push comes to shove, they already knew there has been an ongoing issue. A phone call to the PD can't hurt. You pay your tax dollars to have the service that many of us do not use (until we see the blue and reds in the mirror anyways, haha)

 

[AK103K]

Sounds like they know how to push your buttons, and its working.

 

[Ed Harris]

All verbal threats should be taken seriously. You need to file a police report, and take the notes with you.

 

[sandcast69]

Well, the police probably won't be able to do anything right now but it can't hurt to voice your concerns to them and start getting this documented. Also document every single encounter with this guy such as
phone calls, FTF, drive by's, notice his car parked near your house, etc.
I would keep a log of everything. If he escalates the situation you'll be able to show a pattern of behavior that might provide the police or courts what they need to stop this guy from further aggression. For now I would be evaluating security at home and while I'm out and about.

If you don't have a Carry License Get One! get some training and carry all the time. (according to all local and state laws for your state).
Is your wife familiar with firearms...if not get her familiar with how to use whatever firearm you plan to use for home defense. Get in the habit of locking your doors even when your home.

Possibly consider a video surveillance system, there are some fairly inexpensive systems out there and if connected to a recording device would provide more documentation if he should come around.

Good luck, hope this helped.
sandcast69

 

[hso]

Police report.

Restraining order.

If he's a member of your church or a coworker go to the appropriate authority there and explain the situation.

Be vigilant and prepared for the worst.

 

[Arkel23]

Heres the problem with him coming around and being by the house, he lives with me as I was kind enough to open my doors to him, (my cousin) but now he's about to be put out soon, this just doesn't make sense.

 

[Yo Mama]

^Not good. Living with you makes you more at risk in other areas, including domestic disputes where now you're in danger of having to give up your guns if he caused a problem. It's his home to now. Seems like you tried to help though.

If he's your cousin, how about discussing this with your family as well.

Police report.

Restraining order.

If he's a member of your church or a coworker go to the appropriate authority there and explain the situation.

Be vigilant and prepared for the worst.

Excellent and what I would have said.

 

[Bailey Boat]

Damned!!!!! If he's already IN your house disregard ALL of the above except for the documenting parts. Hopefully there isn't any contractural agreement between you and him and a simple "you need to leave and don't come back" will be all you need to go through.

At this point in time and given the new circumstances, I would contact the police (at the station, NOT at your home) make them aware of the situation and request that a report be written of your contact in case crap goes to the worst extreem and thier needed. You may even want to ask them to be present when you tell the cousin to leave. He may go peaceably or he may explode in your face..... I hope the best for you.......

 

[Artiz]

Loaded gun on your hip. Sounds over the border, but so are his threats.

 

[sanerkeki]

Since you let him in now it becomes a domestic issue. I would first sit down and talk to him, afterall anyone that takes notes out of a Bible and uses them to scare somneone has eaither watched to much tv or is little on the loony side. If talking does not work then take some action. A lot of times we bring the problem on our self weather not knowing or not thinking ahead at the time, but you have to take some strategic steps to get this guy out of the house or what ever you plan on doing.

 

[sandcast69]

"Artiz-Loaded gun on your hip. Sounds over the border, but so are his threats."
In light of the new information provided carrying could provide problematic for him.
As a general rule I don't think there's anything wrong with using every tool available to you to provide for yours and your families safety. South Carolina and many other states provide through their state constitution or statute the ability to exersize ones 2A rights. Of course in the end everyone must do what's right for them.
You being from Canada and me being from the Peoples Republic of New Jersey we're not burdened with such decisions.

 

[Artiz]

^^ Actually, I can carry a gun at home, it's a grey area that the law doesn't apply to.
I don't, but I can have a shotgun loaded in my hands in 5 seconds.

 

[SSN Vet]

but I can have a shotgun loaded in my hands in 5 seconds.

and since he's living with you.... this means that he can to...

Your cousin has got to go... some how you have to figure out how to make him go and minimize the ill will.

Change your door locks the day he does leave and if he doesn't leave you alone, file a police report and follow up with the restrainlng order soon after.

Bugging you has to become more trouble to him than it's worth.

 

[Carl Levitian]

You just need to call the police when he's there, tell them this person is to be removed from your house right now. The cops escort him out, and you change the locks right then.

Getting him out is no problem, you just need to make the call. If he's not on the deed to your home, its a non issue.

 

[mcdonl]

I know this is going to sound cold, but I have told my relatives NO before when they needed shelter. I offered them all the money I could give them but my family comes first, and adding the potential (In your case real) threats that come along with it are not worth it. Unless it is one of my own children, sorry. You are on your own.

 

[Jim K]

First, consult an attorney. This will cost some money, but you would have a heckuva time spending the money if you are dead. Then, go to court and get a court order for him to leave your house and stay away from you and your family. The threats should be enough to convince a court to issue an order to leave your house and stay away from you and your family. Be prepared to deal with any fallout, like your wife defending him.

With a court order, the police can intervene, where they might not in a purely domestic matter. If he violates the order, then the police can (and hopefully will) enforce the court order, where they probably won't take action on just your say-so. In addition, if you have to take drastic action, the court order shows you tried to deal with the issue in a legal and non-violent matter, and it was his actions that led to the large hole in his head.

Jim

 

[61chalk]

Send him packing.....I would be interested in what verses he is using that
is threatning you...? If you care to PM me, please feel free..

 

[Artiz]

and since he's living with you.... this means that he can to...

Your cousin has got to go... some how you have to figure out how to make him go and minimize the ill will.

Change your door locks the day he does leave and if he doesn't leave you alone, file a police report and follow up with the restrainlng order soon after.

Bugging you has to become more trouble to him than it's worth.

Ehh... I'm not the OP.

 

[ChaoSS]

What verses is he using? Is it the sort of thing where the Bible proclaims, say, damnation for someone in your lifestyle? (whatever that may be) Or is it really a threat?

I've noticed that sometimes people will use their religion to try to hide their threats. I was on a forum and saw a guy who was praying for the destruction of certain members and saying that he prayed that he could be the "Sword of God" in bringing justice to nonbelievers. He was banned eventually, but it was amazing how many people said that "praying isn't the same as making a threat".

 

[sheepdog]

First post in the thread...

...reminded me of what the last post in the thread was about............

 

[9mmepiphany]

i don't know about SC law, but you might need to start eviction proceedings if he has established his residence there...getting mail

consulting a lawyer is a very good idea

 

[ChaoSS]

i don't know about SC law, but you might need to start eviction proceedings if he has established his residence there...getting mail

consulting a lawyer is a very good idea

True, but if there's enough to get a restraining order, then he could at least keep him away. If I was, say, threatening my wife, something where she could get a restraining order against me, then I couldn't return to my own house, even though I pay the mortgage and it's in my name from before we were married. I'd assume you can keep a renter away the same way.

 

[Cosmoline]

this guy is the devil himself, and he's just pushing it farther and farther

is followed by this disclosure:

he lives with me

That's what I call a major disconnect. You really need to get your house in order, or you will have nobody to blame but yourself. You don't let people in your house, period. That's rule no. 1 for securing your home or any other premises. Don't even open the door. No good deed goes unpunished, as you are no doubt learning now. Get him out as quickly as possible. If he has a legal claim to some lease, pay him off.

What a total disaster.

 

[kingpin008]

Getting him out is no problem, you just need to make the call. If he's not on the deed to your home, its a non issue.

Wrong. In many states, all it takes for an individual to be able to claim legal residence in a dwelling is for them to have been living there for a set period of time (varies, but it's usually 30 days or a little more) and have at least some real property at the residence.

After that, it's most certainly not a "non issue" to get them to leave. You generally have to go through the same steps you would have in order to evict a tenant.

If anyone doubts this, call your local PD and ask them if they'll come out and escort someone from your home. They'll ask you what crime they've committed, and if there hasn't been one, you'll get hung up on.

I've had to extract four people from my home over the past ten years - only one left voluntarily when asked. The rest were non-rent-paying "guests" who overstayed their welcome, and had to have eviction proceedings initiated before they were made to leave. Being on a lease or deed means nothing.