Vet Called Up Years After Discharge Sues

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ONOLULU -- A veteran of the first Persian Gulf War is suing the Army after it ordered him to report for duty 13 years after he was honorably discharged from active duty and eight years after he left the reserves.

Kauai resident David Miyasato received word of his reactivation in September, but says he believes he completed his eight-year obligation to the Army long ago.

"I was shocked," Miyasato said Friday. "I never expected to see something like that after being out of the service for 13 years."

His federal lawsuit, filed Friday in Honolulu, seeks a judgment declaring that he has fulfilled his military obligations.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Harry Yee said his office would defend the Army. He declined to comment further. An Army spokeswoman at the Pentagon declined to comment to the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Miyasato, 34, was scheduled to report to a military facility in South Carolina on Tuesday.

Within hours of filing the lawsuit, however, Miyasato received a faxed letter from the Army's Human Resources Command saying his "exemption from active duty had not been finalized at this time" and that he has been given an administrative delay for up to 30 days, said his attorney, Eric Seitz.

Miyasato, his wife, Estelle, and their 7-month-old daughter, Abigail, live in Lihue, where he opened an auto-tinting shop two years ago.

His lawsuit states that Miyasato is suing not because he opposes the war in Iraq, but because his business and family would suffer "serious and irreparable harm" if he is required to serve.

Miyasato enlisted in the Army in 1987 and served in Iraq and Kuwait during the first Persian Gulf War as a petroleum supply specialist and truck driver.

Miyasato said he received an honorable discharge from active duty in 1991, then served in the reserves until 1996 to fulfill his eight-year enlistment commitment.

The Army announced last year that it would involuntarily activate an estimated 5,600 soldiers to serve in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. Army officials would be tapping members of the Individual Ready Reserve -- military members who have been discharged from the Army, Army Reserve or the Army National Guard, but still have contractual obligations to the military.

Miyasato said he never re-enlisted, signed up for any bonuses or was told that he had been transferred to the Individual Ready Reserve or any other Army Reserve unit.

"I fulfilled my contract," Miyasato said. "I just want to move on from this, and I'm optimistic that I'll be successful."

Miyasato speculated that he may have been picked because his skills as a truck driver and refueler are in demand in Iraq. He told reporters he did the same work as that done by a group of Army reservists who refused to deliver fuel along a dangerous route in Iraq last month.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...,0,5251562.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines

See also: http://starbulletin.com/2004/11/06/news/story3.html

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This bears watching. If indeed he did complete his contractual obligation to the Army, would this not be conscription?
 
That is sad because that man shouldn't have to go. He has served his time, he has a family to take care of and he has a business to take care of. He gave them 8 years and was honorably discharged. What more do they want out of him? His life?
 
Don't get so excited.

There are two possiblities:

1) The Army screwed up. All he has to do, is contact JAG and get things straightened out.

2) He's not telling the whole story, did in fact reenlist in the reserves, and is trying to weasel out of it.

Either way, this drama-queen behavior is unwarrented.
 
Somebody doesn't understand something.

You don't receive an honorable discharge "from active duty." When your active duty stint is completed, you get a "release" from active duty and are transferred, either to an active reserve unit or to the individual ready reserves. You don't receive a discharge until your final, total term of service has been completed. When I served in Vietnam, I was released from active duty directly to the IRR, but I didn't receive my discharge until four years later.

After 13 years it sounds like this guy's term should have expired long since, but he did not receive an honorable discharge from active duty ... unless he served multiple enlistments.
 
Hawkmoon said:
Somebody doesn't understand something.

You don't receive an honorable discharge "from active duty." When your active duty stint is completed, you get a "release" from active duty and are transferred, either to an active reserve unit or to the individual ready reserves. You don't receive a discharge until your final, total term of service has been completed. When I served in Vietnam, I was released from active duty directly to the IRR, but I didn't receive my discharge until four years later.

After 13 years it sounds like this guy's term should have expired long since, but he did not receive an honorable discharge from active duty ... unless he served multiple enlistments.






I dont know what your talking about. When i finished my four years of active duty in the Marines i recieved a DD214, i'm looking at it right now and yup there it is HONORABLE DISCHRGE. And i still have about 2 years of individual ready reserves. But then again i dont think a disabled veteran can be recalled.


O and by the way i got my Honorable DD214 before the VA even finished my final physical and classified me as a disabled vet.
 
Darkmind said:
I dont know what your talking about. When i finished my four years of active duty in the Marines i recieved a DD214, i'm looking at it right now and yup there it is HONORABLE DISCHRGE. And i still have about 2 years of individual ready reserves. But then again i dont think a disabled veteran can be recalled.
Well, I own up to being an olde pharte. When did they change the rules?
 
I'm guessing this is some sort of mistake. This guys obligation was up in 1996, even if he reenlisted past then and got out later there is no IRR obligation after 8 years. I'll second what Darkmind said also, when I ETS'd after 4 years my DD214 says Honorable Discharge. There is a spot on it that lists when my IRR obligation is up also
 
A DD-214 is a "release or discharge from active duty". It is NOT your Honorable Discharge. You will get your HD after the completion of any inactive duty. Until you get the certificate that says, in big bold script "Honorable Discharge" your butt belongs to Uncle Sam. The DD-214 means nothing. It may say "honorable discharge" on it, but that only means you will be getting that after your total enlistment is up.

This was explained in great deal to me when I was in the USMC.
 
When did the obligation become 8 years? When I left the USN in '78 my 6 years active were my whole obligation.

Had I been male, the draft classification would have been 5A - Obligation Fulfilled.

My sister's 2 years in school and 5 years active more than fulfilled her whole USNNC (Nurse Corps) 6 year obligation as well.

Tara
 
In Sept 1979, I signed an 8-year contract with the USMC. 4-years active duty, 4-years inactive. Everyone I know of since then has had an 8-year contract.
 
I dont know what your talking about. When i finished my four years of active duty in the Marines i recieved a DD214, i'm looking at it right now and yup there it is HONORABLE DISCHRGE. And i still have about 2 years of individual ready reserves. But then again i dont think a disabled veteran can be recalled.
When I received my DD214, it had the word "honorable" in the block titled "Character of Service" or similar, meaning that the active duty portion was conducted honorably. 4 years later, I received my honorable discharge (a rather nice-looking, diploma-like, certificate).

If this guy is, indeed, getting called up after his service has been fully completed, I'll cry foul. If it's just an admin mistake, albeit a bad one, I'll cry "typical".
 
he shouldn't be suing. What Rebar said was right, he should be calling JAG, and getting out all those forms he should have stashed away somewhere, and get it taken care of.
 
goalie said:
Or, the guy was a comissioned officer, in which case he serves for life if they want him.

That was my first thought, but since he said he was a truck driver/fueler it sure sounds like he was enlisted.
 
Steve in PA said:
In Sept 1979, I signed an 8-year contract with the USMC. 4-years active duty, 4-years inactive. Everyone I know of since then has had an 8-year contract.
Steve is correct in that you do not received your actual Honorable Discharge (suitable for framing) until your inactive duty commitment is fulfilled, be that 8 years (in my case, enlisting in 1975, it was 6 years), or whatever it is. I'm pretty sure it was changed to 8 years after my 1st enlistment. You do receive a DD214 when you exit the service, stating the nature of your service.
I exited the USAF in 1979 (got a DD-214) and received my Honorable Discharge in the mail in 1981 (ironically, on my way home from MEPS on the day I reenlisted).
I retired from the USAF in 1994 (early voluntary retirement during the drawdown) and was given another DD-214, but with an inactive reserve commitment of 10 years which just expired 30 Oct.
Normally it was 5 years for retirement, but for the early retirements they required 10 years.

As for this guy's inactive duty requirement, the report said he was enlisted (he was a truck driver), so if correct he should not be obligated to any more inactive reserve time than anyone else.

Should he be sueing? I don't know but, I do know how hard it is to convince the military that they are wrong on anything sometimes.
 
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