Video game gun violence

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I read in the thread about what brought you into the rkba lifestyle that some people stated that video games spurred their interest. I do not play video games but all I ever hear is how overly violent the gun usage in them is and how it is a negative for the rkba movement. Since I have no first hand experience other than buying the consoles for my nephew, I was wondering what the general concensus was on this topic? I might worry that if someone's interest was spurred soley by something that put forth such a violent portrayal of firearms then they might have the wrong idea about their proper place and usage. Then again I would hope they were mature enough to seperate fantasy from reality so this would not be a problem. Opinions? :)
 
Well there are lots of enemies and you shoot them, that's basically all there is, not really any more violent than a bond movie.

Now the resident evil games have gorey violence, but they're all 18, and most kids would be scared off (hell I won't play them withpout my good friend, mr invincibilty)

Shoot em up games have ragdoll physics and red areas for wounds, nowhere near realistic violence.

In fact the only game I know of that teaches anything resembling real combat skill is "America's Army" which was governemnt developed.
 
My interest in firearms was ominously drilled into my mind the moment I pulled my first trigger and heard a bang. (which happened to be a .410 break action shotgun)

However I was pretty much under the impression that guns were for hunting and cops when I was a kid, until the day I went to my uncles house and he let me shoot his AK-47.

I had been in love with my guns up until that point, then I immediately grew an overwhelming interest in ALL firearms.

I played a lot of video games in my early teens, and they served primarily as a learning base (skewed as the facts presented may have been - EX in Counter-Strike, ejection port on the left side of the guns and brass constantly spraying you in the face)

But yeah, video games did a lot to reinforce my foundation, but mostly from an educational standpoint.
 
manhunt was a very gruesome game but it had alot less gun play than most others. i dont think its what games kids play that we should worry about, im more worryed about the lack of respect and improper parenting that im seeing more and more in kids these days.
 
Personally I think its a lot of hot air and bliss-ninnies getting their undies in knot. Two of my favorite video games have some pretty realistic violence and gore, at least for video games.

Brothers in Arms (WWII shooter) has plenty of blood splatters when you shoot a Nazi and he's backed by a wall. Explosives(grenades, panzerfausts, tank shells) WILL dismember the explodee. One of the cut scenes has the players squad member splayed open like a butchered animal after an attack by Stukas. :( Its rated Mature, due to the violence, gore and strong language (would make Art's Grandma most unhappy)

Call of Duty 2 (another WWII shooter) does not have as much gore as BiA, but opponents not killed outright CAN attempt to crawl away, and the player can dispatch them with their weapons or by bashing 'em with weapon. No harsh language, so its rated Teen.

Gun violence has been in video games for A LONG TIME. I loved playing the game Syndicate in the early 90s. Controlling a squad of cyborgs to accomplish missions often necessitated killing civilians and police in the game. At least until one had earned the funds to get some mind control devices and assimilate them into the Corporate Cause. :evil: Not to mention Castle Wolfenstein and Doom.
i dont think its what games kids play that we should worry about, im more worryed about the lack of respect and improper parenting that im seeing more and more in kids these days.
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I concur on that point.
 
Spec Ops grunt said:
Video games in no way make you violent unless you're screwed up to begin with.
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I don't know about that. How do you explain my burning desire to climb things while gorillas throw barrells at me? :D
 
Sindawe said:
Gun violence has been in video games for A LONG TIME. I loved playing the game Syndicate in the early 90s. Controlling a squad of cyborgs to accomplish missions often necessitated killing civilians and police in the game. At least until one had earned the funds to get some mind control devices and assimilate them into the Corporate Cause.
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Guess what I'm playing right now.:cool: :cool:

Talk about weird, I found the CD and started playing yesterday.......



DOSBox is your friend. :cool:
 
I don't know about that. How do you explain my burning desire to climb things while gorillas throw barrells at me?
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Obviosly youre a sociopath. You should give all your guns to me. Before you kill someone. :neener:
 
I was a gun fanatic long before there was anything called "video game." Yet, I absolutely love video games and the deciding factor on what computer I buy is gaming performance. I also LOVE FPS (first person shooters) of all types, the bloodier the better. I love the Grand Theft Auto series and GTA: San Andreas is one of my all time favorite games.

People that try to blame crime(s) on video games are the same ones that blame guns, movies, schools and everything else in the world but themselves for their actions and their inability to properly raise their children.
 
Games dont really put guns in a bad view because in 90% of games your a good guy using guns for good purposes.

Ifviolent games cause more violence, why has there been a downward trend in crime since the 90's, when the more realistic violent games started hitting it big?
 
Resident evil is no worse than watching something like Dawn of the Dead or Land of the Dead.

There are some excessive games, but they are so over the top that any reasonable individual would have to laugh. Grand Theft Auto? It's so over the top you gotta laugh at the stereotypes and the people that can't get that kind of humor. I particularly liked going to the fast food restaurant and ordering 20 hamburgers and eating until I threw up so my main character became really fat. It makes running from the cops funnier... Big fat dude running around in a stolen garbage truck wearing nothing but his fruit of the looms, air jordan shoes, and gold chains. Tell me that doesn't look exactly like something out of COPS.
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Other games like Rainbow Six are what you make of it. Sure you can go around executing hostages... if you like seeing the Mission Failed screen and getting chewed out all the time.

Video games are merely movies that you can interactive with. If you want to complain about Grand Theft Auto, then you gotta complain about mindless tripe from Hollyweird like The Fast and the Furious and the other crap saturating the minds of movie viewers.
 
When people blame their own actions on video games, it just shows how stupid they really are. I played a lot of grand theft auto and never once had the urge to drive around and shoot whatever I could. Thats because I understand what the ramifications would be. A couple times I wanted to pull some stupid drivers out of their cars and kick them afew times, but I didn't. Lately I have been playing Star Wars Battlefront and I wish more stormtroopers would run around my neighborhood.
 
Playing a video game is the same as watching a movie, IMHO. In a video game you just get to play the character. Its entertainment pure and simple. A $50 single player video game gets you 20+ hours of entertainment, not bad considering goin to the movies cost $25 and lasts 2 hours. A good multi-player online game like say 'BattleField 2' your $50 gets you a virtually never ending amount of entertainment.

The bleeding hearts that started blaming video games just needed a scape-goat to keep the blame from themselves, the parents. The majority of the blame should fall on parents for not raising their kids, parents need to raise them not the tv. I've played violent, and the new catch phrase 'ultra-violent', video games since I got my first Nintendo in '86. Also, kids aren't stupid they see the news and listen to all the press BS. Now when they do something wrong they play the blame game too, "Oh, I thought it was like a video game and they'd get back up, thats why I kept shooting them. Oh, no you mean real life isn't like a video game." :rolleyes: And the media eats it up.

Really its just a sign of the times, no one will accept responsibility anymore for anything. Not for their kids or even their own actions. It's always someone or something else at fault. It's pretty sad, when I grew up if I screwed up my old man accepted full resonsibility for what I did and then put the belt firmly across my a55 so I wouldn't do it again. He must have raised me right cause I haven't gone on any killing spree's since last nights BF2 rampage. :neener:
 
I play video games,and pretty violent ones sometimes,like Devil May Cry . But see here's the thing...I know it's not real.

There's all kinds of good games,with and without guns. I love the Legend of Zelda series and I don't want to hack bad guys with a sword,do I?
 
Get a chalkboard. Get a piece of chalk. Write this, 1000 times on the board:
There is not such thing as "gun" violence. Violent crime can be committed with any weapon, improvised weapon, or with one's bare hands.
 
hope they were mature enough to seperate fantasy from reality so this would not be a problem

If that were universally true, no problem. Your should go read Grossman's On Combat for many reasons, but his section on FPS and dissociation is really thought-provoking.
 
Except for the fact that it was pretty obvious that he had zero firsthand experience with gaming, gamer culture, and also likely handling of firearms.

His contention that playing videogames made the killer in the Paducah school shooting more accurate was patently ridiculous.
 
I'd like to think there is a big difference between the RKBA and violent video games.

Don't get me wrong ... I enjoy violent video games as much as the next 35 year old guy. I have been playing violent video games since they existed.

Not one time when I was purchasing my first pistol was I thinking about violent video games. It was actually September 11th the got me thinking about survival, defense, etc.
 
His contention that playing videogames made the killer in the Paducah school shooting more accurate was patently ridiculous.
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If that were true, I'd be a world-class shot. I have a lot of mouse - clicks under my index finger. :D
 
im going to have to agree with spec ops grunt on this one i dont believe playing video games influenced my intrest in guns at all. for the most part my father taking me out to shoot his guns were the deciding factor. Any child that claims to be influenced by a video game i believe has had problems in the past and is using the games as an excuse. Its the same with music and movies....
 
The main problem I have with guns in video games is the inaccuracy. Thereare actually people who believe that any belt-fed gun is called a BFG (big 'fricken' gun).




I'm not joking.
 
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