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WALKIND DEAD no .22LR

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  1. MagnunJoe

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    On a lighter side!
    U guys ever noticed that in THE WALKING dead series they never shoot the zombies in the head with .22LR ammo?
    It seems to me that .22LR ammo would be ideal for them since it makes a-lot less noise, you can carry 4 times as much, it's a lot lighter and cheaper.
    But no, u always see Rick, Daryl, and company blast those bastards away with a .357 magnum, AR-15 in 556 or 233 caliber or a 12 gauge shotgun.
    The Israeli army and Mossad use a .22LR pistol to assassinate the terrorist and enemies of the state by shooting them in the head.
    Maybe there is a shortage of .22LR in the WALKING DEAD too!
    Someone should tell the producers/writers to introduce .22 ammo into the show so they don't alert every walker in the Zip code when they use a .357 magnum cannon to over-kill a dead zombie.
     
  2. M1key

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    Naw. No splatter factor. Besides all the 22 has been squirreled away somewhere and lost forever.

    M
     
  3. jrdolall

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    They need something that makes a lot of noise and big, bloody messes. A silenced 22 leaving a tiny hole wouldn't be gruesome enough for the show.

    Let's see. The most common caliber of gun in the USA with probably 10x as much ammunition available as any other caliber and I don't remember seeing one in any season. No doubt there were a few but I don't recall. This is filmed about 30 miles from where I live and I know quite a few people that been extras.
     
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    Likely because 22lr isn't as easy to reload, if you read the comics they actually do some reloading to build up supplies of ammo (in the prison I believe).
     
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    I don't see what "u" or anyone else sees in that show although it seems to have become immensely popular entertainment.

    It has been difficult for most shooters to find .22 on the shelves, so I disagree with telling "the producers/writers to introduce .22 ammo into the show so they don't alert every walker in the Zip code when they use a .357 magnum cannon to over-kill a dead zombie."

    Personally, if I were to be on a permanent walkabout, I'd rather have my '92s in both .357 and .44. The carbines are light, handy, powerful and are extremely accurate and easy to hit with within "zombie" range.
     
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    I think it is because there is no 22 ammo on the shelves.
     
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    Stop bringing reality into a fictional show bursting with scary, gory entertainment :)
     
  8. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Seriously though - for Walking Dead-type zombies who apparently have skulls the thickness of a rotten squash - and for whom any type of head trauma is immediately fatal - .22LR is about as close to the perfect caliber as possible with the possible exception of reliability issues associated with dirty little rimfire calibers.

    Birdshot and open chokes would also be pretty handy.
     
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    I actually prefer the chick with the sword. Also the one guy that was fond of the big claw hammer, or was that a little pick? Anyways, it saved on ammo, and the effect was just as good.:eek::eek:Coogs.
     
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    The Ruger 22/45 with a suppressor is popular in the books. Other 22 LRs as well.
     
  11. ApacheCoTodd

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    While others will claim great success rates...

    I have had painful (emotional) experience with trying to dispatch animals in the past with .22 to the head.

    Sure enough it can be done but care needs to be taken for 1 round success.

    Worst case scenario was my Uncle putting down a beloved hunting hound and getting the first round in his own calf for his troubles.

    He's self-shot, the animal is wounded and he needed to see that through before attending to his leg all the while having lost confidence in himself and .22 to get it done cleanly and mercifully.

    .22 in the Z.A.? Not if I have a choice.


    Todd.
     
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    Damn... That's a rough story right there! Seriously got to feel for the guy. Not so much the leg trauma but knowing his dog suffered. That would haunt me. 12g slug for mine.
     
  13. fallout mike

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    I have no faith it the round either. My very close uncle got shot by a .22lr rifle at point blank range on accident by a friend while they were entering the woods to squirrel hunt. After he finished the hunt he went to the ER. They x-rayed it and the Dr. said there was no reason to even remove it as it didn't make it through his belly fat. It's still there. Another friend of his accidentally shot him in the shin with one. He popped it out himself and didn't even go to the Dr. Yea, I know, he needs safer friends or something.
     
  14. yugorpk

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    Its just people hoarding ammo. I work with a few guys who have 1/2 million rounds a piece in their basements they stop by the store every day on their way to work and buy whatever they can buy and call their relatives to buy the rest. The way Ive had it explained is that when the government collapses that .22 ammo will be the currency of the realm. To me that is stupid. To them it is their reality.
     
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    In humans, based upon the suicides I've seen, usually death is not immediate, and there is no exit wound with 22lr and 25ACP when fired at contact range into the cranium.

    Usually there is incapacitation, the brain swells, the eyes bulge out and get dark, and a few hours later in the ER the swelling brain runs out of "room" and herniates downward, at which point the subject is pronounced dead.

    It always looks like a nasty way to go. Families ask whether the subject can hear them. They see a random twitch here or there and think there is a chance. Meanwhile the nurse can usually predict within an hour when the subject will pass.

    Gore is overrated. A lot of people enjoy watching humans being decapitated with machetes for TV entertainment, but then wretch when it comes time to clean a trout or dove. I got no respect for 'em.

    22 is kinda underpowered once the game is bigger than a cook pot. I wouldn't endorse it as a first choice in Zombieland. Plus, aren't other "survivors" the bigger threat on TV now?
     
  16. MyGreenGuns

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    I always thought it would be funny if the group came upon a prepper-zombie. Someone sitting on a ton of food and ammo but who died from something mundane, the flu perhaps.

    I havent found .22lr in over a year. With the current scarcity of ammo, I wouldn't want a .22 in a crisis.
     
  17. TruthTellers

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    You don't even need to focus on The Walking Dead being completely deficient in .22 rimfire guns, I've never seen one in any zombie theme show or movie ever. Then, you can't even find them in video games! I'm not as big a gamer as I was a few years ago, but I've never seen .22 in any game ever be it zombie themed or other.

    .22 is the most disrespected cartridge in the media. It may as well be to start treating it like an air rifle and sell them without background checks.
     
  18. Steve CT

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    I'm a little surprised (but not concerned) that this Topic is still open. Zombies/Walking Dead/World War Z... are all entertaining.

    I'm not sure any of us will ever have firsthand knowledge regarding .22 LR versus Zombie. If this actually becomes an issue, I'm hoping that several thousand rounds of .380/9mm/.357/.45/.223 will be enough before I need to resort to (much more) .22 LR ;)
     
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    Yup, and a friend (Mark) suffered a much worse Cujo/Pet Semetary scenario with his Rottweiler - absolutely horrendous.

    Nope - given most any choice for the head-ball... most anything else but no .22 if I have a choice.

    'Sides, if I have choices, I'm keeping the .22 for stew meat and such.

    Todd.
     
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    Probably, it's due to this effectively drifting to being more about realistic expectations from .22 than the famously banned scenarios in topic matter.

    Todd.
     
  21. bikerdoc

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    The only reasons Im not closing this is :
    1 It is not my beat
    2 We are talking intelligently about the choice of a weapon for a disaster ( substitute natural disaster and civil chaos for Z's) If it gets of the rails stupid I will be back.
    22 doesnt enter into the plan unless my grand kids are around.
    Me personally, I plan to shelter in place, if I have to hit the road, the weapon remain the same 9mm cabine and sde arm for the wife, a 357 lever action an six gun for me. Along with a back pack full of ammo, food and water.
    keep it gun related
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    .22 RIFLE v/s pistol

    I have found that the .22 rifle / carbine has a VERY real ability to penetrate !.

    YouTube has a video of a few men that are doing ACCURATE shots WITH penetration through 1/2" pine board ----- at 400 yards.

    I rest my case in favor or the .22 for such a dispatching job as zombies.
     
  23. ApacheCoTodd

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    I don't think that's in dispute.

    Everyone knows .22 can impart some power in the right set of circumstances. I think here what's called out is the likelihood of failed penetration due to glancing/deflection in head shots (skulls) as in hunting with .22s.

    Too, I know of at least 2 critters failing to die with a .22 lump in their brain-balls.

    Hit well, there isn't an animal in North America that a .22 won't kill but who wants to stand in front of the dangerous ones to prove that it can be done easily of reliably?

    Todd.
     
  24. M1key

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    Well, my brother used to dispatch domestic hogs with a CCI Stinger to the forehead. He says they all dropped in their tracks. Cut open the skull and the bullet had fragmented and rattled around inside.

    I would assume the Stingers would be effective on the Z population.

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    My (step) brother died instantly (according to the coroner) from a single 22lr at very close range from a short barreled revolver.

    What's with shooting your dogs? :rolleyes:
     
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