Check out the Thompson Center 22. They make two versions of this semi auto. The Target is a heavy barrelled, wide stock target rifle and the Classic is a more slender, well... classic look. I have the classic and it is a great rifle. 1/2 in groups at 50 yards hand held off a rest. Never a misfire and very well put together. Probably a little less $$ than the CZ.
Want a .22 plinker but, 10/22's don't do it for me.
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Yeah, I'd venture to say that the coolest looking .22 rifles I've seen in the last 2 years are:
-Thompson Center Benchmark
-Kimber SVT
-Browning Buckmark - anodized green aluminum frame, carbon fiber wrapped barrel, and orange/green laminate furniture.
-Savage MK I-LY Youth Color
http://www.tcarms.com/TC_HTML/TC_Semi_R55_Bnchmrk.htm (you can't tell from the picture how wide the forearm is on the benchmark, but it is)
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/kimberrifles/kimber22svt.asp
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976457439.htm
http://www.savagearms.com/markily.htm
-Thompson Center Benchmark
-Kimber SVT
-Browning Buckmark - anodized green aluminum frame, carbon fiber wrapped barrel, and orange/green laminate furniture.
-Savage MK I-LY Youth Color
http://www.tcarms.com/TC_HTML/TC_Semi_R55_Bnchmrk.htm (you can't tell from the picture how wide the forearm is on the benchmark, but it is)
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/kimberrifles/kimber22svt.asp
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976457439.htm
http://www.savagearms.com/markily.htm
Just to be contrary...
I like my 10/22 far more than my Marlin Model 60, but I like the Marlin 39A even more. Don't know if it's more or less accurate than the Ruger, but it has definitely sent more little prairie dog souls to Prairie Dog Valhalla than the Ruger.
Iron sighted, even...
S/F
Farnham
I like my 10/22 far more than my Marlin Model 60, but I like the Marlin 39A even more. Don't know if it's more or less accurate than the Ruger, but it has definitely sent more little prairie dog souls to Prairie Dog Valhalla than the Ruger.
Iron sighted, even...
S/F
Farnham
Hawk
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Well, this is kinda off topic due to budgetary constraints - my own constraints, anyway...
But I'm a sucker for pretty wood.
And this is pretty: AA-auctionLink
Betcha it shoots good too.
And only 1,520.00
But I'm a sucker for pretty wood.
And this is pretty: AA-auctionLink
Betcha it shoots good too.
And only 1,520.00
Cosmoline
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I've hunted small game with a CZ 452 ZKM for many years. If your eyes are good, you really don't need a scope with it. Of course my eyes aren't what they were even five years ago.
I checked out the TC line and took a gander at what people are saying about on rimfirecentral.com and it seems that it is hit or mis with accuracy and some reliability. It's just a tad more expensive than the CZ to boot. The CZ's really seem to have what I'm looking for. Now, I need to decide if I want a scoped target rifle like the American/Varmit or just a simple iron sighted plinker such as the LUX/Trainer/Manlicher. I was wondering how good are the are the iron sights on the CZ's. www.cz452.com makes a peed sight upgrade for the sighted models that seems interesting.
Flip.
Flip.
chaim
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I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who doesn't like the 10/22. Reading these forums sometimes you'd think I'm alone. I did give one a try and own it for a little while. It was fun to a degree, but no where near as fun as my Marlin 60. I sold it and it is pretty much the only gun I've ever sold that I've never considered replacing.
If you want a .22lr the Marlin 60 is a good one to consider. Inexpensive, accurate, and feels like a "real" rifle. Also, if you want a gun that is proportioned and sized like a "real" rifle I would consider the Remington 597. Either would be a good option if you'd consider a semi-auto.
The CZ also seems to be a great option. The 452 Lux is on my short list of rimfire rifles I still want to acquire (the others being the Remington 597 in .22mag, a Henry lever rifle possibly the Yellowboy, and possibly something in .17mag eventually).
If you want a .22lr the Marlin 60 is a good one to consider. Inexpensive, accurate, and feels like a "real" rifle. Also, if you want a gun that is proportioned and sized like a "real" rifle I would consider the Remington 597. Either would be a good option if you'd consider a semi-auto.
The CZ also seems to be a great option. The 452 Lux is on my short list of rimfire rifles I still want to acquire (the others being the Remington 597 in .22mag, a Henry lever rifle possibly the Yellowboy, and possibly something in .17mag eventually).
Flip180
Well as iron sighted rifles they are just as good.
In a way though the CZ452 is so accurate, it is a waste not to scope them. Even say a simple 4x rimfire scope. Not too big, still useful close in or simple plinking. But enough to help you get the full results of the accuracy.
Actually I have two friends with them. One has a Leupold 2-7x on it. The other has a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x. But the latter loves hitting small targets.
Well as iron sighted rifles they are just as good.
In a way though the CZ452 is so accurate, it is a waste not to scope them. Even say a simple 4x rimfire scope. Not too big, still useful close in or simple plinking. But enough to help you get the full results of the accuracy.
Actually I have two friends with them. One has a Leupold 2-7x on it. The other has a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x. But the latter loves hitting small targets.
New_geezer
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A Marlin 60 with a cheapie Wal-mart 3-7 scope is a blast. Low investment, Very accurate and no clips to buy (tube feed). My wife loves hers. The finish inside around the chamber of hers wore off rather quickly but the gun still performs like a champ - not at all fussy about ammo either, even when mixing different brands in the same tube load.
I love my CZ 452 Trainer (pretty much a Lux with a beech wood stock rather than walnut). Very accurate and personally I like the iron sights on it.
But if I buy another 22 LR rifle it will be a Baikal biathalon trainer. Very unique but accurate gun - built in weaver rail so you have to get a scope or red dot for the gun
I love my CZ 452 Trainer (pretty much a Lux with a beech wood stock rather than walnut). Very accurate and personally I like the iron sights on it.
But if I buy another 22 LR rifle it will be a Baikal biathalon trainer. Very unique but accurate gun - built in weaver rail so you have to get a scope or red dot for the gun
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Another recommendation in favor of the Marlin 60. I love mine. When I first went to purchase a .22 rifle, I handled the 10/22. I instantly disliked it. When I handled the Marlin 60, it simply felt so much better to me. Your mileage may vary. Handle both and see which you prefer.
Handle both and see which you prefer.Another Marlin 60 fan
I was given one, put a 3-9x Tasco scope on it, and never looked back...Shoots good w/ almost any ammo, and with certain types its a real tackdriver...Much more accurate than any "stock" 10/22 I've ever seen. Good if you wanna keep the cost down....
I was given one, put a 3-9x Tasco scope on it, and never looked back...Shoots good w/ almost any ammo, and with certain types its a real tackdriver...Much more accurate than any "stock" 10/22 I've ever seen. Good if you wanna keep the cost down....
I modified my 10/22 when Midway had the $99 Fajen stock and 16" bull barrel deal. Then I installed a new hammer/trigger group from Power Custom and a few other minor mods. For under $300 I have a very nice and very accurate .22. That being said, I would venture a good bolt gun like a CZ is a great choice.
Another rifle worth considering is the Remington Fieldmaster Deluxe pump-action. I have a non-deluxe model and it has served me quite well over the years. The iron sights are more substantial on the Deluxe model, and I thinks that's the only one they still make.
Red Tornado
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I must agree that the M69 Romanian trainer feels great and is lots of fun. For an inexpensive bolt action, it'll be hard to beat. LOVE the sight system.
However, the best feeling .22 I've tried is the Remington 552. It's basically like the fieldmaster z_infidel mentioned, except it's semi-auto. Of all the .22's I have and have tried, it's the one that shoulders the best for me and feels like a 'real gun'. I'm 6' and like a bit longer LOP than the Ruger. The possible downside is that it's tube fed. If you want detachable magazines and semi-auto.....well.....it kind of comes back to...well, the 10/22. Sorry, I like it a lot, too, even if it's short.
RT
However, the best feeling .22 I've tried is the Remington 552. It's basically like the fieldmaster z_infidel mentioned, except it's semi-auto. Of all the .22's I have and have tried, it's the one that shoulders the best for me and feels like a 'real gun'.
I'm 6' and like a bit longer LOP than the Ruger. The possible downside is that it's tube fed. If you want detachable magazines and semi-auto.....well.....it kind of comes back to...well, the 10/22. Sorry, I like it a lot, too, even if it's short. RT
Sistema1927
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Let me check the gunsafe:
10/22 (x2)
Taurus 63
Browning Auto .22
Winchester 1906
Marlin 39A
All of them are fun, but the two that get used the most are the non-auto guns, the '06 and the 39A. Both of them handle Colibris without any problems, and the 39A with XS ghost ring sights is very, very accurate.
10/22 (x2)
Taurus 63
Browning Auto .22
Winchester 1906
Marlin 39A
All of them are fun, but the two that get used the most are the non-auto guns, the '06 and the 39A. Both of them handle Colibris without any problems, and the 39A with XS ghost ring sights is very, very accurate.
chaim
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Sistema, how do you like that Taurus 63? I forgot to mention it in my short list of rimfires I want, but I really want that gun. How reliable is it? How accurate? And, how much did you have to lay out for it? Thanks.
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Get an American 180 in .22 LOL!
...Seriously though I'd probably get the 10/22 and then never ever buy another Ruger gun in my lifetime .
...Seriously though I'd probably get the 10/22 and then never ever buy another Ruger gun in my lifetime .
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chaim,
The Taurus 63 was around $200. I really like it, it has been reliable and accurate with the addition of the rear tang sight. The only thing that I don't like is the fact that while it is easy to break down for carrying, it is somewhat more difficult to dissassemble further in order to get it really clean. In this regard the Browning is much simpler. Of course, this is not a Taurus problem, but indicative of the fact that once John Browning left Winchester they lost his genius. Thomas C. Johnson was good, but he wasn't as good as the master.
What is funny is the fact that some folks think that Browning designed the 63. Not so, this was Johnson's design after John Moses had left the firm.
The Taurus 63 was around $200. I really like it, it has been reliable and accurate with the addition of the rear tang sight. The only thing that I don't like is the fact that while it is easy to break down for carrying, it is somewhat more difficult to dissassemble further in order to get it really clean. In this regard the Browning is much simpler. Of course, this is not a Taurus problem, but indicative of the fact that once John Browning left Winchester they lost his genius. Thomas C. Johnson was good, but he wasn't as good as the master.
What is funny is the fact that some folks think that Browning designed the 63. Not so, this was Johnson's design after John Moses had left the firm.
MilsurpShooter
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Got a Hnery Lever action .22 thing is very accurate... and it's just fun to pretend to be John Wayne at times lol
Mr. Loud Guns
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I hope after reading all of these responses you reconsider about the ruger 10/22. If you don't like the size of it you can always change out the stock for something that suits you better. They make alot of draganov style stocks that seem really nice. Just my opinion. 
KaceCoyote
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I dislike the 10/22 myself, I dont like the idea of any rifle that has to be hotrodded to compete with rifles in its price class. I'm also boycotting Ruger for their retarded billboard barrels and pro AWB politics.
Dont forget the Rhineland arms 22, or the papoose. Not only does it break down but it shoots "Minute of tennisball" out to 65 yards with a cheapie BSA scope every time. My own Marlin 60 lasted -forever- and was my grandfathers, still I put maybe 1-2000 rounds through it and still it shot very accurately.
Dont forget the Rhineland arms 22, or the papoose. Not only does it break down but it shoots "Minute of tennisball" out to 65 yards with a cheapie BSA scope every time. My own Marlin 60 lasted -forever- and was my grandfathers, still I put maybe 1-2000 rounds through it and still it shot very accurately.
22-rimfire
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I have handled both the sporter and target versions of the Thompson Center 22 auto. Both feel and point great!
My favorite "hit where you point" 22 is my Remington 541-S (sub 1" groups at 100yds). Also have a Weatherby MarkXXII which is one fine full size 22 rifle. Shoots really well (again sub 1" groups at 100yds). I have a Ruger 10/22 Deluxe also that is okay; I just am not fond of the magazines. Shoots fairly well. I like the Remington 504 rifle if you like the Remington Model 700 feel. Have considered buying one to try out, but the 541-S (with adjustable trigger) shoots so well, it would be hard to beat out of the box. The more recent version of the 541 was the 541-T. I recommend all of the above highly except for the Ruger. Enjoy!
My favorite "hit where you point" 22 is my Remington 541-S (sub 1" groups at 100yds). Also have a Weatherby MarkXXII which is one fine full size 22 rifle. Shoots really well (again sub 1" groups at 100yds). I have a Ruger 10/22 Deluxe also that is okay; I just am not fond of the magazines. Shoots fairly well. I like the Remington 504 rifle if you like the Remington Model 700 feel. Have considered buying one to try out, but the 541-S (with adjustable trigger) shoots so well, it would be hard to beat out of the box. The more recent version of the 541 was the 541-T. I recommend all of the above highly except for the Ruger. Enjoy!
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Hawk
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Never mind.
Sir Aardvark
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This is sort of a re-cap on what I posted on another thread here on THR.
I love my 10/.22. Here are some of the mod's I've done on my factory original condition, bone-stock, standard barrel 10/.22:
Bed the action
Milled the bolt face to .043"
Free-floated the barrel
Installed aftermarket hammer and polished everything in the action
Installed Bolt Stop Buffer (from Weaponkraft)
Auto bolt release modification
Adjustable barrel tuner
Fire-lapped the barrel
Installed bipod mount on foreend
Installed trigger pull stop screw
Refinished the stock
As you can see, I had a lot of time on my hands then and was kinda bored. The only things I spent money on was the Aftermarket hammer and Bolt Stop Buffer; everything else was just stuff I had laying around from other projects. I also have a friend with a mill who did the machine work. Oh yeah, I also put on a scope that was donated by another rifle in my collection.
The gun is much more accurate now with all brands of ammo I use, except for Remington value pack, that stuff is filthy!. I am still searching for a good brand of ammo other than the super expensive "Match" ammo, but, unfortunately, my time now is limited. I did not do any scientific "Before and After" comparison by measuring group sizes or anything like that, but it is much better just by judging with the naked eye. The only thing left to do would be to get an aftermarket replacement barrel, such as Green Mountain's, but I'll save that for another 10/.22.
I love my 10/.22. Here are some of the mod's I've done on my factory original condition, bone-stock, standard barrel 10/.22:
Bed the action
Milled the bolt face to .043"
Free-floated the barrel
Installed aftermarket hammer and polished everything in the action
Installed Bolt Stop Buffer (from Weaponkraft)
Auto bolt release modification
Adjustable barrel tuner
Fire-lapped the barrel
Installed bipod mount on foreend
Installed trigger pull stop screw
Refinished the stock
As you can see, I had a lot of time on my hands then and was kinda bored. The only things I spent money on was the Aftermarket hammer and Bolt Stop Buffer; everything else was just stuff I had laying around from other projects. I also have a friend with a mill who did the machine work. Oh yeah, I also put on a scope that was donated by another rifle in my collection.
The gun is much more accurate now with all brands of ammo I use, except for Remington value pack, that stuff is filthy!. I am still searching for a good brand of ammo other than the super expensive "Match" ammo, but, unfortunately, my time now is limited. I did not do any scientific "Before and After" comparison by measuring group sizes or anything like that, but it is much better just by judging with the naked eye. The only thing left to do would be to get an aftermarket replacement barrel, such as Green Mountain's, but I'll save that for another 10/.22.
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