Warren tactical sights hit high? Glock 19

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Just installed a set of warren sights from brownells. Info was very clear that the front sight included was the correct one for glocks etc. got them installed and the fiber optic front sorted. POI is 6 inches high at 15 yards. 6 o'clock hold in other words. I tried 124s and 147s. Same results. Seems strange that combat sights would necessitate 6 o'clock hold. Advice? I don't really want to send the front sight back. Maybe I should.
 
Yeah I'm at a loss then. I'm running Warren Sights on my Glock 17 as well (slightly different set - the Warren Sevigny Carry sights, but same height and such) and it hits point of aim just fine.

IF the sight is made to spec I'm not sure what sending it back would do.

If you have some calipers, can you measure the height of the sight above the slide? I can compare it to mine to see if its different.
 
Always read the reviews... The one review for that set mentioned the same problem.

Different model glocks have different rear sight heights. I didn't realize this until somewhat recently, when looking around for a simple rear sight, similar to the stock plastic one but without the white outline.

Most of the rear sights and sight sets I've considered listed a list of models they fit, so I'm leery of "universal glock" sight sets.
 
Might be a trivial question... Are you trying to align the top of the sight, or that glowing circle?
 
I read all reviews and checked the replies for the .215 (the individual sight) and they all said it was the proper height for all glocks. I imagine they didn't really know. I guess I'll contact brownells.
 
I read all reviews and checked the replies for the .215 (the individual sight) and they all said it was the proper height for all glocks
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i run 215's (Dawson) on all three of mine.. However, i use a Heinie Ledge rear.
 
It seems counter-intuitive, but heavier rounds will also hit slightly higher on the target, too -- as they go down the barrel a bit more slowly, and the barrel will rise a bit more during recoil.

In some cases, slide length can make a difference in which front or rear sight should be used -- but I'm not sure about Glocks.
 
This G19 does have a LW barrel in it... I can't imagine that would make it hit so high, right?
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did it have the barrel installed before the sight swap?
 
LW doesnt have the best reputation, but if it shot fine prior, I wouldn't think the barrel is the issue? toss the stock barrel back in try???

I would also caliper that front sight just in case a part didnt get mixed up from the factory.
 
This past week, I installed a set of Warrens on a new Gen. 4 G19 before I even shot the pistol. I used the tritium front (.215 height) with the plain black rear (I believe they call this set the "Tritium Mix") and the POI was ~1.5 inches high at 15 yards when the top of the sights were held dead center. Since I never shot the pistol with the garbage plastic factory sights, I can't say if there was a change or not. I can live with 1.5 inches at 15 yards, but 6 inches would bother me for sure.
 
Follow up: I ordered the Heine ledge rear and pulled the .215 Warren front sight off the G19 and put it on my G23 with the ledge. Hits exactly where I want it. :cool:

I'm going to order the .245" front sight for the G19. I've read some more on the brownell's site and apparently the 6-oclock hold with the .215" set is fairly common. They don't offer the set with the .245" front sight though. You have to buy it separately.
 
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It seems counter-intuitive, but heavier rounds will also hit slightly higher on the target, too -- as they go down the barrel a bit more slowly, and the barrel will rise a bit more during recoil.
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I believed that when I wrote it, and I thought I had seen it at the range. I first wrote that back around April of 2015. Since then, I've been involved in a number of different discussions on this forum and others, and I've come to believe that bullet weight in a locked-breech, semi-auto doesn't affect barrel rise all that much. A heavier bullet will have a different point of impact than a lighter one, but not because barrel rise causes it. Bullet weight can have a more noticeable affect in a fixed barrel semi-auto or a revovler, because recoil begins immediately, and because the slide and barrel don't move to the rear together. (Revolvers behave in the same way.)

I sat down and did some live fire testing, using a rest and different bullets weight. (You can also find some calibrated slow motion videos on YouTube which shows that the barrel doesn't rise until AFTER the bullet leaves the barrel -- and the vertical rise of the front of the barrel occurs when the barrel and slide start to go their separate ways, and even more so when they eventually hit stops on the frame and their momentum is tranferred more fully to the pivot point (hand on the grip.)

So... seems as though something else is at play in this issue addressed in the OP comments -- like an unmatched sight set or improperly marked set of sights. Sounds as though the OP has worked it out.
 
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Personally I would contact Dawson Precision and ask them, they sell more, know more about sights than virtually any retailer. I would guess the front sight is too short for your rear, may have been a mismatched set, IDK. Luckily the front sight on a Glock is the easiest to replace of any pistol.
 
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