Water Proof Concealment?

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Just found out I'm going camping and on a river raft trip up in kern county (california), with 20-30 people I don't know.

I'm an old fart and won't be partying to hard, and want to make sure my trusty friend is along... in case of zombies in the woods :what:

I'm trying to figure the best way to go concealed, and keep the gun dry.... Searched the internet and came up with a water proof fanny pack at http://www.thecompassstore.com/traverse.html

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks

Note: I want to take my 3' 1911, but may have to settle for the berreta .32
 
A freind of mine has that bag for camera equipment. In a rush its a PAIN to open quickly. Try a decent fanny pack with your pistol wrapped in a baggie.
IN a hurry you can pull the trigger through the baggie.
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I'd check Blackhawk's website/2006 product catalog. Blackhawk was started by a former US Navy SEAL and they sell many useful high quality products.

Rusty S :cool:

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SealLine used to make a screw top dry bag for cameras, etc... so waterproof I've used mine as a cooler.
 
I'd shrink wrap a conceal hammer revolver.

Celophane on a moving slide and exposed hammer doesn't sould like a sound idea to me.

On second thought, forget the shrink wrap all together. Breaks to easy. I'd buy a tube of that cartridge sealant, like that red stuff you see around the primer, and over seal a bunch of rounds. Primer and bullet. I'd grease the weapon with Hoppe's Gun & Reel Grease, every part and a thin coat in the barrel. Test 3 mags +1 in the pipe at the range before you trust the set-up. Bring a bucket of water with you, and dunk the gun loaded for a few minutes.

On third thought, what ever gun you bring, it should have a lanyard attachment. You could replace your Mainspring housing on your 1911 with one that has a lanyard loop.

On fourth thought, I'd carry with FMJs only. You don't know what might get in the gun, so go for maximum reliability over stopping power.
 
Going up the Kern Rivery, are you? Just avoid the illegal aliens, the Sierra Club idots and Outdoors Club drunks and you should have a good time. Be aware, though, the canyon gets hot this time of year, really hot, super hot.
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Go for the Beretta. The 1911 3" is going to be hard to hold on to if your hands are wet, especially while firing. A lanyard is a good idea.

I would also go for the shrink-wrap idea, as long as you practice gross motor movement to:

1) Draw the gun from concealment, wearing what you'd actually be wearing that day
2) Remove the wrap adequately in one motion
3) Fire

... all in under three seconds. If you have doubts, then forget the shrink wrap and CLEAN/OIL your gun thoroughly as soon as possible. Like, "before you eat" soon.

I've carried a Bersa .380, unprotected, through waist-deep marshland in 20 degree weather. When I got home six hours later, the ammo (a hot-loaded, sealed SP) was relegated to the plinking ammo bin. The gun was stripped, cleaned, and re-oiled. Still works fine to this day with no rust. Granted, I never had to fire it during that time out in the woods... :uhoh:

I've tried firing it wet and covered in gunk (though under controlled conditions). It operated okay, as the recoil shook off any residual plant matter still clinging to the exterior (and chewed through anything inside). Accuracy wasn't as good, and it was kinda hard to maintain a grip on it, but it was fine. Cleaning it later took longer than usual, especially the resulting sludge from the oil, fouling, mud, pulverized sand and plant material, and other gunk, but it all came off in the end.

A Beretta .32 is easier to conceal, cheaper to replace if it is lost, easier to hold on to while firing, and a lower-pressure round if something does go catastrophically wrong. I'm not a gunsmith/physicist/fortuneteller, though, so this advice and experience is worth what you paid. :)
 
The Kern River can be a very fun place but there are alot of drunk knuckleheads out there not to mention the place is swarming with rattlers. I go to the Kern a few times a year and use a simple float tube. When I go down the river I keep money and ID in two zip lock bags for lunch and a few beers when I get to the town and it has never gotten wet. I think you should be fine with a pack with some bags. That place is awsome but extremely hot this time of year 100+. Be prepared to fry.There is a mexican restraunt in town that has some of the best food ever. If you like to fish the river has some of the best trout fishing and has several kinds, there is even one called the kern river rainbow.
 
I wouldn't worry about water proofing the gun or the ammo. Just make sure you clean it thoroughly when you get back. The lanyard idea is a good one though.
 
"I wouldn't worry about water proofing the gun or the ammo. Just make sure you clean it thoroughly when you get back. The lanyard idea is a good one though."

My sentiments exactly. My canoe/kayak guns are oiled well, secured, and kept in whatever holster I generally use. I have a lanyard ring on the 1911A1 and use the trigger guard on my S&W Airweight. At most use some fingernail polish on the primers and where brass & bullet meet. I do that on my hunting rifle ammo since I carry six extra rounds in a sling. They get soaked. Never had a problem. I shoot them at the end of deer season.

rk
 
Put the pistol in a padded 30 cal ammo box, clipped to the raft with a lanyard while boating, and normal carry on the beach.
 
I wouldn't be afried of the gun getting wet. Just oil it well before the trip & clean & oil it afterward's & you will be just fine. I've gotton a few different wepons wet & it didn't hurt them at all!
 
I agree witht he "don't worry, just clean it good" crowd. I've never had any problems as long as I do this. Lately I've been carrying larger stainless guns. Last canoe trip my gun was a 5" Ruger Redhawk. I know stainless isn't completely rust-proof though, and still requires care.

Rent and watch "Deliverance" before the trip:eek:
 
I too, don't worry, just clean it good As a Marine, I've had both my M16 and M9 wet and fired w/o cleaning. I haven't done it for awhile, but we did a beach landing with zodiac's and then a live fire latter on that day, most of the ammo we fired got wet, we cracked our weapons open and checked the bores, but we didn't stop to clean unless the barrels were pluged, that was salt water and all we did was our 3 cleanings on 3 different days for maintence.

As long as it isn't some exotic gun, I wouldn't worry. A lanyard is a good idea.
 
What HPG said.

I just put my Glock 19, roughly the size of a 3" 1911 into a quart sized zip lock bag, dunked it under water in the kitchen sink, and it came out dry as a bone.

The fit in the quart sized bag, for the Glock, is a little tight; but the seal holds. Try a half-gallon size bag and the fanny pack idea....I like it.
 
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