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Yes, yes, and yes.
Wayne LaPierre is resigning.
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PWC
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Do you really think a NYC prosecutor will give back to the NRA any monies shee gets?
Mark_Mark
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Ted is apart of the problemI’m voting for Ted Nugent as his replacement.
I don't care if they are a Space Alien, as long as they do what's best for the organization.
Same here. I will rejoin if the new people are or at least seem more down to earth where we all are. Not just some super rich person.
We need the NRA like it used to be. Quote from an old one = From my cold dead hands.
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NRA DEI hire?!?! lol… You know a Good Qualified Space AlienI don't care if they are a Space Alien, as long as they do what's best for the organization.
No one can help What they are, so I always Judge people on who they are. Like Mr. Lapierre, I would put him in the Jerk category because of what he did to the NRA.
The NRA has the BOD elected by Life Members and similar, not regular annual members. The problem is that they changed the bylaws so that only nominees who are approved by the current board are listed. This makes a takeover of the type you describe unlikely. It also supports the sort of cronyism that the NRA has been suffering from for years.
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That’s called CORRUPTION!
230RN
2A was "political" when it was first adopted.
"They" won.
We lost.
The 800 lb gorillat is being dismembered.
"Accusations are cheap. Defense is expensive" has been a long-term strategy of the anti gun cadre. Do not expect them to abandon that technique.
I said it, you don't like it.
Too bad.
Keep in mind I'm not commenting on the merits of the case
I'm commenting on the fact that there was a case..
Nibble, nibble, nibble.
Terry, 230RN
We lost.
The 800 lb gorillat is being dismembered.
"Accusations are cheap. Defense is expensive" has been a long-term strategy of the anti gun cadre. Do not expect them to abandon that technique.
I said it, you don't like it.
Too bad.
Keep in mind I'm not commenting on the merits of the case
I'm commenting on the fact that there was a case..
Nibble, nibble, nibble.
Terry, 230RN
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CapnMac
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Well, what the State takes a hold of, it seldom gives up. And, New York State is not likely to turn down what looks like "free money" to them.
But, this does raise the question of whether a Class Action suit versus WLP is appropriate for the Members to ask to be made. Now, it might be difficult to get any more blood out of the stone left by NYS prosecution. But, perhaps it might be mete to snip a few of the shrouds on WLP's "golden parachute." I don't know. I have reservations about enriching lawyers so that we Members get a check for $25 or $35 per each.
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Lawyers & Law Firms are the big WINNERS in this whole thing
Keep in mind that the NRA was willing to include handguns in the original NFA.
The "from my cold dead hands" mentality is from the Harlon Carter era.
The NRA has had pretty good PR about it's lobbying efforts but for the most part that is somewhat is an illusion.
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That's basically the same thing as owning class A shares vs lesser shares (I forget the proper term.) NRA Life amembers are the equivalent of Class A shares. (or something like that. I don't work in the investment industry, so I may be somewhat incorrect in my terminology.)
Not too different from government politics. We never get the candidate we want/need.
Mark_Mark
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4 REAL! Dude already plunder the NRA $$$ and people are ready to send them check's AGAIN.yawn
mcb
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I agree, WLP departure is a necessary and good start, but there has to be allot more changes before my money goes to the NRA again. I need to see to the NRA leadership with allot more transparency and allot more accountability to the membership. For many their trust was violated and it will take time and real effort on the NRA'd part to rebuild that trust.
Speedo66
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From a NY Times article this morning, Oliver North will be testifying in the WLP corruption trial in Manhattan. I think it would be a good guess he will not be testifying in WLP’s behalf.
There was also a mention that a female aid to WLP is also accused by the NY AG of spending over $100K of your dues money on personal items such as family travel expenses, bedding, and car repairs.
They will also show that his personal travel agent was instructed to alter records showing who was traveling with him on “business” flights.
At this point I think it’s pretty clear that he stepped down rather than waiting to be thrown out by the trial jury’s decision.
This is a civil trial, it’s possible a criminal trial may follow based on the findings.
There was also a mention that a female aid to WLP is also accused by the NY AG of spending over $100K of your dues money on personal items such as family travel expenses, bedding, and car repairs.
They will also show that his personal travel agent was instructed to alter records showing who was traveling with him on “business” flights.
At this point I think it’s pretty clear that he stepped down rather than waiting to be thrown out by the trial jury’s decision.
This is a civil trial, it’s possible a criminal trial may follow based on the findings.
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It is rare that anyone in these kinds of positions are 100% clean. They start to think they are untouchable because no one inside the organization has any say in how they spend the money entrusted to them.
Fortunately, most of the time the graft is pretty minor and it does not matter much in the grand scheme of things.
It is common for CEOs to get caught with expensed items that are inappropriate, often involving a female not his wife.
No one really cares as long as things are running smoothly.
I remember when I was in high school somehow they caught the high school principal embezzling money from the various clubs. It could not have amounted to much. Most of the clubs kept their funds in envelopes in his desk and when they needed money would just go get it out of the envelope. No one knew what any of it was spent on, and it seems now and then he would pilfer a little bit for himself.
Fortunately, most of the time the graft is pretty minor and it does not matter much in the grand scheme of things.
It is common for CEOs to get caught with expensed items that are inappropriate, often involving a female not his wife.
No one really cares as long as things are running smoothly.
I remember when I was in high school somehow they caught the high school principal embezzling money from the various clubs. It could not have amounted to much. Most of the clubs kept their funds in envelopes in his desk and when they needed money would just go get it out of the envelope. No one knew what any of it was spent on, and it seems now and then he would pilfer a little bit for himself.
Dogleg7
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I bought a Life membership in 1967. When asked later to donate money to "the cause". I told them that if they would supply the salary, plus perks, for each of the board members, I would consider donating. Well I got a big "kiss my a**" reply and have not been asked for another donation.
It was mentioned that the whole board should resign and start fresh. The board members are elected by NRA voting members. The ONLY way members have to try to control an organization is by VOTING.
It was mentioned that the whole board should resign and start fresh. The board members are elected by NRA voting members. The ONLY way members have to try to control an organization is by VOTING.
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100%! no 1000%!!!!
From what I can tell from the suggestions made here as to who should replace WLP, I am not real hopeful that things would get much better.
Armybrat
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How about Neal Knox Jr. ?
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