WVGunman
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His avatar is named Jeb Stuart and has a Confederate battle flag in it. Makes your statement above kinda ... I dunno, ironic?
This thread is a real dumpster fire.
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This thread is a real dumpster fire.
LiveLife
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How about this?
Over the decades, rights of various minority groups have expanded (ADA, LGBTQ, etc.) and propagated to become local/state/federal laws to be observed by the majority. And people of all parties somehow agreed and went along with these expansion of minority rights.
Are gun owners any different when we want to expand our minority rights?
If not, then gun owners are being discriminated because of our desire to support the Bill of Rights/Constitution and our desire to pursue self defense/protection of family.
To me, NRA's primary objective is to fight for gun owners' minority rights. Deviate from that objective and reason why we have this thread discussion.
Over the decades, rights of various minority groups have expanded (ADA, LGBTQ, etc.) and propagated to become local/state/federal laws to be observed by the majority. And people of all parties somehow agreed and went along with these expansion of minority rights.
Are gun owners any different when we want to expand our minority rights?
If not, then gun owners are being discriminated because of our desire to support the Bill of Rights/Constitution and our desire to pursue self defense/protection of family.
To me, NRA's primary objective is to fight for gun owners' minority rights. Deviate from that objective and reason why we have this thread discussion.
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Jeb Stuart
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And you know nothing Sir. Yes, I am very proud of Virginia and my Heritage. What exactly do you know about Jeb Stewart? NOTHING . Just your comment alone suggest you are extremely ignorant about Virginia, the South or even history. Please do not make this personal. This thread is not "a real Dumpster." It is called Communication. If you have something to give a argument to your side of this issue, we will respect that. If not, then find somewhere else to post your insinuation and attempted insults. And by the way, go study some history. You might be surprised to actually learn a few things. And yes, I am familiar with people wanting to destroy that heritage and pride of others birthplace, their ancestors etc. We constantly have monuments torn down, or destroyed etc.
This thread is about the NRA. Get it there or just go.
*Ps. A great book on History of Jeb Stewart is "The last Cavalier". Start there and actually learn something.
If you want to discuss American American History, i would love to. One of my favorite subjects. Start a new thread and I will meet you there.
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WVGunman
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Sorry! To paraphrase our Fearless Leader Donald Dump, "I like heritage that doesn't celebrate the losers of a war, okay?"
*drops the mike, leaves.*
Jeb Stuart
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Heritage is not about War. Yes another ignorant statement.And no one is asking you to celebrate squat. So move on.
LiveLife
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People, we should get back to discussion about NRA and our gun-rights/2A future or moderator will lock this thread.
Can we get back to why LaPierre was asked to resign?
Thanks.
Can we get back to why LaPierre was asked to resign?
Thanks.
Jeb Stuart
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Just saw the line up for candidates running for the Democrat Ticket for President. The largest field ever. I believe there are a total of 15 at present. I am sure there will plenty of NRA bashing in the coming months to satisfy all the NRA Bashers.
And they will be in full force to take away all our gun rights.
And they will be in full force to take away all our gun rights.
Actually there's 20 Dems at the moment and a couple of Republican primary challengers. For all of you doubting President Trump, who would you rather have from this crowd ? Or do you only throw stones instead of offering solutions ? The NRA, GOA, 2AF are doing the best they can as is President Trump. We should support ALL of our allies and not become divided. The opposing forces are redoubling their attack on Trump, if they win we can expect gun bans and confiscation.
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LiveLife
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And we NEED a president who will keep nominating pro-gun/2A judges to various federal district/circuit courts and the SCOTUS to better ensure our gun rights/2A future for decades to come.
Yes, NRA will be backing President Trump for 2020.
For 2A sake for us and our children and our grandchildren's future, we need to set aside our differences and come together and WIN in 2020.
If anti-gun/2A candidate wins in 2020, I can assure you that you can kiss your gun rights goodbye.
Yes, NRA will be backing President Trump for 2020.
For 2A sake for us and our children and our grandchildren's future, we need to set aside our differences and come together and WIN in 2020.
If anti-gun/2A candidate wins in 2020, I can assure you that you can kiss your gun rights goodbye.
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LiveLife
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That is your opinion and your choice and I can respect that.
So who will you vote for in 2020 to ensure your gun rights and protection of 2A?
And will your candidate nominate pro-gun/2A judges to various federal courts and the SCOTUS?
So who will you vote for in 2020 to ensure your gun rights and protection of 2A?
And will your candidate nominate pro-gun/2A judges to various federal courts and the SCOTUS?
Of course, not voting also has its consequences.
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I agree. Populists are some of those I fear most - ideologically ungrounded, to say the least.
LiveLife
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And who will you vote for in 2020 to ensure your gun rights and protection of 2A?
Will your candidate nominate pro-gun/2A judges to various federal courts and the SCOTUS?
Elections have consequences.
We are drifting again. Sorry if I caused thread drift.
This thread is about NRA and why LaPierre was asked to resign.
rpenmanparker
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My gun rights have to stand in line far behind the preservation of societal norms and other rights more important to a much larger fraction of our population...like everyone’s right to vote. We cannot afford another 4 years of that fraudulent clown.
LiveLife
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Please, let's keep the discussion to NRA and why LaPierre was asked to resign.
Or the thread will be locked quick.
We can certainly discuss your other concerns in a different thread under the THR forum rules - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?pages/code-of-conduct/
Or the thread will be locked quick.
We can certainly discuss your other concerns in a different thread under the THR forum rules - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?pages/code-of-conduct/
Two of the top polling opponents to Trump, There are many that are much worse on the issue of 2A:
Kamala Harris vows to take executive action on guns if elected president:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala...xecutive-action-on-guns-if-elected-president/
Joe Biden has long been hostile to the Second Amendment:
https://patriotgunnews.com/2019/04/03/joe-biden-has-long-been-hostile-to-the-second-amendment/
Kamala Harris vows to take executive action on guns if elected president:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala...xecutive-action-on-guns-if-elected-president/
Joe Biden has long been hostile to the Second Amendment:
https://patriotgunnews.com/2019/04/03/joe-biden-has-long-been-hostile-to-the-second-amendment/
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And who will you vote for in 2020 to ensure your gun rights and protection of 2A?
Will your candidate nominate pro-gun/2A judges to various federal courts and the SCOTUS?
Elections have consequences.
We are drifting again. Sorry if I caused thread drift.
This thread is about NRA and why LaPierre was asked to resign.
Any libertarian. Coincidentally that’s who I want to run the NRA and everything else, too.
Liberty, for everything, above all else.
LiveLife
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Yes, we are at active war with anti-gun/2A crowd who is fervently pushing for GUN BAN.
We need NRA to refocus their energy in addressing this direct threat.
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Yes, please let's do. This thread has a start date of Friday, so I assume he was asked to resign on Friday? We've been hearing about strife and in-fighting but this is the first I've heard about Wayne LaPierre being asked to resign, and it happened back on Friday? Oliver North resigned yesterday, so was he asked to resign or did he resign of his own volition? Was Wayne LaPierre asked to resign and then refused to resign? Or do I assume too much about the dates and the overall chronology of the deal?
Or has some other chain of events taken place?
Personally I believe it's time for some new blood in that position and that Wayne has gotten too comfortable in the job. It will take an outsider, committed to change and to 2A, skilled in politics, business and the law.
Please, someone catch us all up on what has been happening at the convention and what possible resolution of this mess might be forthcoming tomorrow.
Thanks in advance.
Elkins45
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The Annual Meeting ended a couple of hours ago. Hopefully we will be getting some reports soon that help fill in some of the big question marks about this mess.
LiveLife
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There is another thread discussing North resigning after asking LaPierre to resign (He said no) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/norths-second-term-at-nra-goes-south.850853/
Fox News reports what may have happened - https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/john-lott-second-amendment-nra-oliver-north
"What happened to force North out?
It turns out that North and longtime NRA Executive Vice President and CEO Wayne LaPierre got into a power struggle. LaPierre came out on top.
LaPierre claims North extorted him by threatening to release “damaging” information if he did not resign. North’s supporters say that North was merely offering LaPierre a way out that wouldn’t require a messy battle about his handling of NRA finances.
... Meanwhile, the NRA is suing media company Ackerman McQueen, which pays North for hosting a TV program. LaPierre alleges that North’s accusations against him were motivated by personal financial interests."
CoalTrain49
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That's correct.
The President ordered the ATF (DOJ) to change a determination that they had already made about bump stocks. I've got no dog in this fight over bump stocks but the President has made it his business to regulate. States are falling all over themselves to regulate bump stocks. We don't need the NRA endorsing a bump stock ban or the President taking any action because eventually the states will make those changes soon enough and the courts will sign off on them. This state (WA) banned bump stocks before the president could get the ATF ruling changed.
The bottom line here is we don't need the president or the NRA pushing these agendas. This is the business of the states. I didn't like Obama doing it, I don't like this administration doing it, and I sure as hell don't like an organization I pay dues to doing it. For the NRA it was a PR stunt and for the President it was calculated to appeal to the AG crowd. Neither had to do anything and the issue would have taken care of itself.
Here is how the SAF handled it. Nothing more.
This is a preview of the next move on semi-auto rifles and magazines. If the President or the NRA (working together now) sees some political mileage in banning either of those they will move against them just as sure as the sun sets in the west.
Look for the President to move on SA rifles and magazines before the next election and the NRA to cover for him. Neither one have anything to lose.
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So, by your logic, you would further the STATED intentions of the oppsition candidates for a semi-auto ban and possible confiscation over your FEAR that the NRA and President Trump MIGHT do the same. That is simply insane.
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