CarJunkieLS1
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Will do. But it may be a little while as he's kinda busy. Plus in a few weeks rifle season for deer opens up so I won't be able to shoot it. I will update when I know somerhing.
Weatherby 7-08 Fiasco! HELP
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Don't know if this will help but I just bought my daughter a Vanguard in .243 and had a hard time with the scope mount. The Vanguard has a large radius on the rear of the receiver. The 1st mount I bought was marked for Vanguard but it was flat at the rear mount location, not radiused. The guy at the gun shop swore it was correct until we ordered another one and he saw the difference. I'm sure you've checked, I'm just relaying my experience.
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I suspect a barrel problem.
Also, wait 1min between shots and 5min between strings.
You may be heating the barrel up and then when resuming firing, shooting a cooled barrel which often WILL cause a shift in zero in a light barrel.
You may also have a barrel with undersized threads/barrel shank. Under stress of firing and heating of barrel, it's casusing the zero to shift.
Try a Sierra 140gr flat-base over 46.0gr of IMR4350. If this won't shoot 1.5moa, IT WON'T SHOOT !!!
My gun doesn't like 120gr bullets nor H380. But, with 140-150gr Sierra's and either IMR,H4350, or RL17 will shoot <2moa for 3-shots.
It's a Rem. Mod-7 with 20"bbl. Not a tack-driver, but a pile-driver on game!
Try slowing down your strings of fire, and allow barrel to cool between strings and you may see it "calm" down...
One way to "treat" the barrel would be to shoot ~20rds through it as fast as you can. This will often heat up a barrel enough to "heat treat" it and relieve machining stress which will cause one to "walk" as it heats up.
If these suggestions don't help, send it to Weatherby for a possible re-barrel.
My Vanguard in .257wbymag is sub-moa for 3-shots (1/2moa with select loads), but will walk the 4-5 shots if fired quickly.
Good Luck !!!
Also, wait 1min between shots and 5min between strings.
You may be heating the barrel up and then when resuming firing, shooting a cooled barrel which often WILL cause a shift in zero in a light barrel.
You may also have a barrel with undersized threads/barrel shank. Under stress of firing and heating of barrel, it's casusing the zero to shift.
Try a Sierra 140gr flat-base over 46.0gr of IMR4350. If this won't shoot 1.5moa, IT WON'T SHOOT !!!
My gun doesn't like 120gr bullets nor H380. But, with 140-150gr Sierra's and either IMR,H4350, or RL17 will shoot <2moa for 3-shots.
It's a Rem. Mod-7 with 20"bbl. Not a tack-driver, but a pile-driver on game!
Try slowing down your strings of fire, and allow barrel to cool between strings and you may see it "calm" down...
One way to "treat" the barrel would be to shoot ~20rds through it as fast as you can. This will often heat up a barrel enough to "heat treat" it and relieve machining stress which will cause one to "walk" as it heats up.
If these suggestions don't help, send it to Weatherby for a possible re-barrel.
My Vanguard in .257wbymag is sub-moa for 3-shots (1/2moa with select loads), but will walk the 4-5 shots if fired quickly.
Good Luck !!!
ironworkerwill
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Often times flat based bullets out shoot the boat tailed bullets. I was only knida joking when I mentioned 120 Sierra prohunter and H380. That is my go-to combo.
Savage 110 7mm08 factory stock and action, Weaver 40-44mod 6-20x44, Harris bi-pod. Converted Rem 260 brass, Lee trimmed to what ever, and annealed Fed 215 primers(I think).
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A 3 shot group with 130gr SMK and H380.
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CarJunkieLS1
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Thanks for the input everyone. I have talked with my gunsmith and with a quick look at it he said that the only possible explanation is I just got a "lemon" rifle. He said everything I've told him and even after he shot it (140gr TTSX in Federal factory loads) which is what Weatherby said they accuracy test with. Is that the barrel may be threaded a little undersize and may not be square to the bolt face.so I'm having a 23" Bartlein 1:9 twist barrel installed. It will be a while till I get it back, but dang it I'm pissed and excited at the same time. I just hope it shoots well afterwards.
BTW I was right my factory barrel is a 1:10 when according to Weatherby is supposed to be a 1:9.5. I'll Never buy another Weatherby again.
BTW I was right my factory barrel is a 1:10 when according to Weatherby is supposed to be a 1:9.5. I'll Never buy another Weatherby again.
You should've sent that gun back to Weatherby before you did that. The gun comes with an accuracy guaranty...you should've made them honor that before spending your own money on stuff that basically voids the guaranty they originally put on the gun.
The only thing to have done was send it back. I saw where you said customer service told you that in most cases it's a waste of time and money...but it surely would've been cheaper than doing all the work you mentioned above.
CarJunkieLS1:
You must have money-to-burn. There is no way in Hades I would rebarrel a "defective" firearm that is under warranty. I have had several defective firearms, and I sent 100% of them back, at the cost of the manufacturer, for assessment and repair.
I can tell you from experience, that Weatherby stands behind their warranty.
"Fiasco"? Sorry. I see no "fiasco". I see a person who purchased a Weatherby firearm that may, or may not have had a manufacturer defect. And you did not permit the company the opportunity to make-right on the firearm. It's your firearm. It's your money. It's your decision. It's also your fiasco, not Weatherby's.
Geno
You must have money-to-burn. There is no way in Hades I would rebarrel a "defective" firearm that is under warranty. I have had several defective firearms, and I sent 100% of them back, at the cost of the manufacturer, for assessment and repair.
I can tell you from experience, that Weatherby stands behind their warranty.
"Fiasco"? Sorry. I see no "fiasco". I see a person who purchased a Weatherby firearm that may, or may not have had a manufacturer defect. And you did not permit the company the opportunity to make-right on the firearm. It's your firearm. It's your money. It's your decision. It's also your fiasco, not Weatherby's.
Geno
CarJunkieLS1
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When I have a Weatherby customer service person tell me I'd be wasting my time and money by sending it in. Then I just got over really quick. Also telling me that it was irrelevant that it has a 1:10 vs the 1:9.5 its supposed to have. And at that he basically said I was wrong.
Don't know about you guys but when I tell them about 2 concerns I'm having about their product and they say quote "wasting my time and money" and "barrel twist is irrelevant" I'm over it and at that point I'm done with them and I will NEVER reccomend Weatherby products to anybody.
Don't know about you guys but when I tell them about 2 concerns I'm having about their product and they say quote "wasting my time and money" and "barrel twist is irrelevant" I'm over it and at that point I'm done with them and I will NEVER reccomend Weatherby products to anybody.
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