Weber State University Offering Concealed Weapons Class

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Weber State University Offering Concealed Weapons Class
October 21st, 2007 @ 10:03pm
John Hollenhorst Reporting

Events on Tuesday will commemorate the six-month anniversary of an incident that shocked the nation. A student at Virginia Tech systematically gunned down students and teachers, killing 32.

At one university in Utah that incident is being used to justify a push for more concealed weapons.

Some professors are packing heat and maybe some students too. A class in Weber State University's Continuing Education Program is specifically aimed at getting people on and off campus to carry guns.

Classroom instructions are given by a professor of anthropology, who doubles as a concealed weapons instructor. Ron Holt says, "I see carrying a concealed weapon as a kind of life insurance policy: 99.99 times you'll never need it, but if you ever do need it, you'll probably really need it."



This continuing education class at Weber State is not for credit. It's open to off-campus folks too, as long as they're at least 21 years old and meet legal requirements for a gun permit.

Guns on campuses are not new. One anonymous teacher has had a permit for 10 years. He says, "My purpose in getting a concealed weapon was, in essence, to become a good citizen."

The tragedy in Virginia has become a selling point. He says, "And I don't consider myself a vigilante. I would never seek out an opportunity to fire my weapon at someone. But if someone is coming toward me, if I were in that situation such as at Virginia Tech, I feel in my heart that I'm prepared."

The classes teach gun safety and scenarios where it's a good idea or a bad idea to pull out a gun. "And I think the ability to react very quickly to a situation like what happened at Virginia Tech outweighs potential problems," says Holt.

We sought reaction at another campus: the University of Utah.

Cameron Strickland disagrees with Holt. He says, "I don't think that's a good idea, to have guns on campus."

"I don't really feel like I should be sitting next to someone with a gun," says Shannon Hook. "And in case something does happen, I don't really necessarily believe everybody has the capability of actually doing something without maybe hurting other people in the process."

But one student applauds the idea. Jake Coburn says, "It gives everyone a sense of confidence, that they can defend themselves."

Utah has issued more than 100,000 concealed weapon permits. That means, whether you like it or not, about one out of every 25 people you meet on the street, in the mall or on campus, could be carrying a gun.
 
(Shiver of homesickness,) I SO miss Utah.

Being an on/off again student in the WSU Criminal Justice dept, I not only carried, I was sitting between off-duty cops in most of my classes, and they were carrying too. I don't recall anyone ever saying anything to anyone about guns, it's such a non-issue when you are studying case law and correcting briefs.

I never open carried, mostly because I already was carrying enough crap with my laptop and books, keeping it in the fanny pack was just more convenient.

When I heard about VA tech, the first thought in my mind was; "Could this happen at Weber? I suppose it could, but it would be over a whole lot sooner."

Utah schools in general are good about carry, with a few notable exceptions. BYU is private, and bans carry. (add that to the list of reasons I don't bleed blue like most other mormons i n the state.) U of U tried to rise above the law and ban carry, but it was shut down. My dad (who also lives in Springville, BTW) works at UVSC, and the machine shop guys have a closed room where they can actually test fire guns that were shop projects.

I never flashed a student who said they don't like guns, but I did tell a few that there are a lot more people carrying than they might think. They would always say; "Well, I don't mean YOU, you are okay to carry, you're safe." I would reply that all persons have the presumption of safety.
 
Welcome to the party, Weber State. Except I've been teaching CCW for free to college students and teachers for six months now. They should just come see me and I'll save them some money. :)

I figure at this point I've lost about $8,000 worth of teaching fees, and it's worth every penny.
 
"I don't really feel like I should be sitting next to someone with a gun," says Shannon Hook.

Utah has issued more than 100,000 concealed weapon permits. That means, whether you like it or not, about one out of every 25 people you meet on the street, in the mall or on campus, could be carrying a gun.

I think the irrationality of people like Shannon Hook is our worst enemy. She has been next to people with guns every day of her life; at Starbucks, at the gas station, at the mall, etc. And not once has one of those people just started shooting people. And yet she is still so uncomfortable with the idea of being next to guns, that she is willing to make everyone change their lives(getting rid of guns) just to make here feel better. My friends, that specific attitude, I feel, is our enemy. If we can change that, we can win. The MSM has worked long and hard making normal people lose their lunch at the thought of a real gun, not on TV, in the same room as them. If we can reverse that, we've got a real chance at winning all of the other legislative battles.
 
"I don't really feel like I should be sitting next to someone with a gun,"

i love how people get this idea that THEY should "fee comfortable" by disarming us, cause were crazy when we want to feel comfortable with an arm.
 
Glendale Community College in the Greater Phoenix Area too...part of the Maricopa County Junior College network...
 
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