weird gun purchase question

[kermit315]

ok guys, here goes. need some advice.

I have a friend in my squadron. We are both Active Duty Military, both from different states, neither claims California as residency. I am from Illinois and she is from Arizona.

I want to buy her PT140. She has it in Arizona. What is the legal way to buy it since we are both from different states, but both live in California. Can we just do the purchase private party, or does it have to go as an out of state shipment to FFL (which costs more, so I hope this isnt the way it has to be.)

thanks,

jamie

edit to add: she would be bringing it from Arizona with her when she gets back off of leave, not shipping through mail. out of state was brought up because we are residents of different states.

Thanks

jamie

 

[Quiet]

What is the process for purchasing a firearm in California?

All firearms purchases and transfers, including private party transactions and sales at gun shows, must be made through a licensed dealer under the Dealer Record of Sale (DROS) process. California imposes a 10-day waiting period before a firearm can be released to a buyer or transferee. A person must be at least 18 years of age to purchase a rifle or shotgun. To buy a handgun, a person must be at least 21 years of age, and either 1) possess an HSC plus successfully complete a safety demonstration with the handgun being purchased or 2) qualify for an HSC exemption.

As part of the DROS process, the buyer must present "clear evidence of identity and age" which is defined as a valid, non-expired California Driver's License or Identification Card issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles. A military identification accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California is also acceptable.

If the buyer is not a U.S. Citizen, then he or she is required to demonstrate that he or she is legally within the United States by providing to the firearms dealer with documentation that contains his/her Alien Registration Number or I-94 Number.

Purchasers of handguns are also required to provide proof of California residency, such as a utility bill, residential lease, property deed, or government-issued identification (other than a drivers license or other DMV-issued identification).

(PC Section 12071)

www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs.php

 

[trueblue1776]

I believe technically you must follow the law of the land, but as ex-military I doubt there is much to worry about. I've done a fair amount of wheelin and dealin in the barracks. Who is to say you didn't buy it somewhere else? I'd just do it and keep it to myself.

 

[kermit315]

but does the 2 different states of residency matter, or can we just go to the gun store, have the FFL do the transfer and be good to go?

 

[trueblue1776]

It would probably be a royal PITA to go through a FFL in CA. You have to get a copy of original orders and wait the ten day period.

 

[Tomcat47]

Jamie,

It is so hard to answer this question properly, legally, and with accuracy. Here is a website that will help you I think. Legally it will probably have to go through an FFL dealer. Wish it were easier...but then maybe not!

Wish a CCW permit was a National permit and the law was simple and straight forward for all 50 states, and we did not have all these issues that required a degree in law to give a gift, or travel with firearms.

http://www.packing.org/

Here you will find a lot of info state to state

 

[kermit315]

thanks guys, called the gun shop to inquire, and he said that since we are both military, all we need to do is both produce orders, do the transfer there as private party, pay the 35 dollars, wait the 10 days and i am good to go.

its his FFL on the line, so if anything is amiss it *shouldnt* come down on me, and he is a straightforward guy, so I trust him.

Thanks for the input guys.