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We're All Going To Die!!!!

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Good god there is alot of doom and gloom people posting nowdays. Yes times are unsettled and yes mistakes have been made, but exactly when aren't times like that? Sometimes the waves aren't as violent, but there's always waves. Maybe we are seeing the beginning of WW III and maybe we aren't. Maybe Kerry will win the election and the 2nd Amendment will be replealed and maybe not. Maybe Wal-Mart will take over every single town in America and every single tech job in the world will go to India or maybe not.

My question is exactly what is being accomplished by mauling each other over issues that are really out of our control?
If it makes anybody feel better history usually shows that when the worst case scenarios do result somehow the world goes on. Case in point anybody remember the "Killer Bees" scare of the seventies? Well those bees are here (Texas, California, Arizona) and the world hasn't crashed down among us. By 2004 we were all going to be out of energy and dying from radiation posioning and/or AIDS. Oh and I also remember a big bestseller called We are the Earthquake Generation. By now all of the West Coast was going to be gone. Well Southern California is still here (unfortunately).

Lately I've been reading postings that are incrediably negative. I guess I should get out one of my Model 28's and end it all - or perhaps finish building my doomsday bunker ( I stopped construction on it back in 84).

You know I have been doing a little research and I can find dire warnings going back several centuries. Jeez even Kurt Vonnegut in Slaughterhouse Five has the United States "Balkanizing" by the early eighties. Hasn't happened.
Why is everybody so anxious for the whole shooting match to fall apart? Are we all really that fragile? I know that right now things seem bleak, but bad times do come and go. In my humble opinion engaging in bickering and personal attacks and doomsaying accomplishes nothing.

I've been told that there is an old Chinese curse that goes something like this. May you live in interesting times.

Well right now we are in very interesting times, but the sun still came up this morning and I'm willing to bet that it will do the same for many more days. And if I lose that bet - well there isn't any guarantees in this life.
 
I think this site is very good for keeping informed on current events. Or not. Obviously, it has its parochial interests. I like to discuss f'arms and read about politics but some, I agree, take it a little over the top. So what? 99% of the time this is a very enjoyable experience to me. Remember the old saying: "Don't let the :cuss: wear you down!" :D
 
I like to discuss firearms and current events as well but lately I've been wondering about the venom in some of the postings. Guess I find it disturbing.
 
"Good god there is alot of doom and gloom people posting nowdays."

Ain't it the truth. Makes me wonder how they sleep at night.

Then again, it's likely just a bad case of 9/11 PTSD.

I can't explain the closet, and not-so-closet, Liberals though.

John
 
You make some valid points. I'm willing to bet even if the 2A was repealed, nothing would happen immediately. The way the various Circuit courts interpret it, it might as well be. :barf:

I think, quite frankly, that SHTF or TEOTWAWKI, to many of us, would be FUN. We'd get all our gear and guns, our families, and act out all the elaborate scenarios and plans we have in our head. If zombies, aliens, or JBTs show their faces, they'll be fun targets. :rolleyes:
 
I think I know what you mean. When I hear about "global warming" I think about the 70's, when "the coming ice age" was the big concern.
 
I guess I should get out one of my Model 28's and end it all
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Checkman, instead of doing that and giving fuel to the antigun crowd, why don't you just smoke a cigarette or eat a bag of french fries? Isn't doing those things supposed to be sooooo deadly?

And if you do, have your survivors send one of those M28s, preferably one with a 5 inch barrel, to me. :p
 
Perfectly logical explanation

Check, there's a perfectly good explanation...

You see, the WOT has used up a vast number of resources, among them is Tin. Because our Military requires vast amounts of tin, we're running short on the home front. This has created a shortage of Tin-foil hats. That means that when you stray from your faraday cage lined home, you might not be protected, and the government will read your thoughts! :uhoh:

Sadly, this has created panic among those aware, and resulted in a lot of improvising. People have tried all sorts of substitutes - sparkles and glue, aluminum foil, and some with tragic results. A while back an internet rumor was posted ( we _all _ know that if it's on the internet, it HAS to be true ) that saran wrap and cling wrap could protect you due to their anti - slip coating. Sadly, many wrapped their entire heads with saran wrap before Snopes dispelled this unfortunate urban legend... :scrutiny:

So once the tin is replenished folks will be more... regular ;)
 
Some years ago I was having a rant about how the whole world was going to hell.How millions were starving in africa.How the liberal/commie scum wanted to give our rights away.How WWIII would probably come sooner rather than later.blah,blah,blah,& etc.Well,after I wound down,both grandparents were just sitting there smiling at me.They proceded to remind me that there have always been problems,big & small,throughout the world.They both liked to tell me to"save my breath to cool my soup."Most thing aren't really worth worrying about.With the instant communication we have now its likely that we all are being bombarded by news that even ten years ago we would have never heard about or cared for if we did.
BTW,I agree that if the S did HTF there would be alot of people who felt either vindicated or just plain happy.Personally I'd rather hope for an attack by mutant ninja zombie poodles rather than incoming nukes but thats just me. :D
 
For the ultimate lesson about "gloom and doom" outlooks and bad attitudes, read the biblical Book of Exodus.

Talk about a bunch of gloom and doom.

In the story, Moses is chosen by God to lead the Israelites out of slavery in Egypt.

Even with God feeding them on a daily basis, guiding them as a cloud by day and pillar of fire by night, even after God parts the Red Sea for them, and puts Moses, the chosen prohpet as their leader, the Israelites still moan.

They moan and bitch and gripe and carp and predict gloom and doom. They whine and bicker and fight and do all the things people always do, no matter how good or bad they really have it.

Yeah, read Exodus. You'll learn a lot about human nature and the propensity to predict gloom and doom.

hillbilly
 
Checkman, forgive me, but why is it obvious you live in Idaho?

By the way, I live in Southern California, an area you, I'm willing to bet, really know very little about. (I came here when I was 1 1/2, a LONG time ago.)

There's no need for doom and gloom, but there is a very real need for sobriety and taking with deadly seriousness the threats we are facing from external and internal enemies. Yes, the crap will rise even up to woodsy Idaho in time. People who live in "out of the way" places often live in the delusion that they are free of threat. To that I say bull****. A few small nukes going off in the lower 48 and we will all be in Mad Max mode. Too bad that's not just B-movie stuff any more, huh?

By the way, to whom it may concern, a SHTF situation will not, repeat not, be "fun."

Over and out.
 
May you live in interesting times.
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This gets used a lot, however, I can't think of any time since the dawn of man right up until the time of this post that wasn't interesting. All times are interesting.
 
This may help to add a little bit of historical perspective. I always get a chuckle out of this. :D
"The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching." Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC
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The more things change, the more they stay the same. :p
 
longeyes said
By the way, I live in Southern California
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I am in San Luis Obispo, latitude 35N longitude 120W, so I am further west than you.

neener, neener:neener:
 
May I add to the biblical reading list? Read the book of Joel, it's quite short. As a very young and impressionable child it made me cry.

I was going to ask on the 'what if the US was nuked' thread the other day whether some people actually enjoy thinking about this. My guess is that some do, after all if all records and all society is destroyed we don't owe anybody any money any more, which is our more usual pressing concern in life.
 
Longeyes -

For what it is worth I don't hate Southern California (well sometimes I do) and I know there are problems. Actually I'm a cop and in the past few years since I pinned on the badge I've been stunned to learn of the things that are going on right here in Idaho. I found myself starting to slip into the gloom and doom viewpoint and thinking that nobody was worth a damm.

And then a few weeks ago I was helping another officer go through old case files from the forties and fifties that have been collecting dust in our closets. People like to think that everything was so much better then - especially those of us here in Idaho. Well I found an abundance of homicide cases, rapes, murder - suicides, child abuse and various theft/burglary reports. And many of the case files had high quality photos as well. Nothing like black and white for capturing details.

Once again things were in perspective. Fifty years ago in the "good old days" there was garbage going on, some of it horribly twisted. In a weird way it helped to lift my mood. Don't ask me to explain it, but somehow I realized we are going to make it.
 
It's a short leap from [gun control sucks] to [life sucks]. I think it helps to count ones blessings on a regular basis. It would appear that some need a break and should go shooting.
 
Well yes, actually, we are. It is just a matter of when.
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This is one of THE most important concepts in the world, yet we always forget about it and never hear it in the mainstream. No one has ever "saved" a life. We are all mortal. It how you live and how you die that matters. Its kind of depressing but its so important. As if banning guns/creating better health care/insert topic here will ever make people immortal.
 
Well.. This is the Legal Political area therfore theres not much happy stuff going on here. This is pretty much the same in some other sites I visit. Really great stuff going on at rilfle, handguns and general gun discussions though.

And yes, None of us are getting out of here alive.
 
I know why...

A great many members of THR are young (20's). They claim to be willing to die to defend their rights but are all too willing to kill the other guy for using HIS rights. My way is the only way and to hell with everyone else. It's what being young is all about. No gray areas, just black & white. Keep the problem(s) simple so that the solution(s) are simple and easy to understand. Maybe thats why their is an age limit to be President.:uhoh: Besides they are bored and gloom and doom adds a little excitement to their life while justifying all those guns and ammo they keep buying.:D
 
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