What 9mm Defensive Ammunition do You Carry?

[tmd16556]

I like the Winchester 50 round 147 jhp. Particularly for the Cz P09, with 19 round magazines. They shoot where I point them and I don’t feel any hesitation to fire them off for practice at a little over 50 cents a round.

 

[Mycin]

147gr Federal HST

 

[Riomouse911]

I used to carry either Hornady Critical Defense (.38, .380 and 9mm), or Winchester Ranger SXT (.380, 9mm +P+, .45).

I rotated those out and now use the Federal 147 gr HST in my CZ 75SP-01 and Glock 43X.)

Stay safe.

 

[jstert]

fmj. practice with what you carry.

 

[JDeere]

124 grain Golden Sabers. Decent quality for the price, about 70 cents a round. The nickel case/brass bullet doesn't corrode, so they last a while.

Don't know that they perform better or worse than anything else.

If I may ask, where did you find those recently? I have a bunch in .45. I have not found them in 9mm but admit I have not dug deep...

Meanwhile it's 124 HSTs or Gold Dots...

 

[Insignificant bill]

Hornady 147gr jhp

 

[sparkyv]

Wow, Cool! You conceal carry a P-09? No need for a backup mag with that payload on board!

I like the Winchester 50 round 147 jhp. Particularly for the Cz P09, with 19 round magazines. They shoot where I point them and I don’t feel any hesitation to fire them off for practice at a little over 50 cents a round.

 

[wayneinFL]

If I may ask, where did you find those recently? I have a bunch in .45. I have not found them in 9mm but admit I have not dug deep...

Meanwhile it's 124 HSTs or Gold Dots...

I bought 500 rounds this week from Bereli in Hollywood. 50 round boxes.

Remington Golden Saber 9mm 124gr +P Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point

Remington's Golden Saber Jacketed Hollow Points Provide Premium Self-defense Performance For When You Need It Most. Golden Saber Rounds Have Match-grade Accuracy And Close To 100% Weight Retention. Their Hollow Points Have Deep Penetration And Offer Knock Down Power Through Their Rapid...

www.bereli.com

They were $325 when I went there from ammoseek.

 

[The Night Rider]

Speer Gold Dot 124-grain +P.

 

[MechaDragon]

fmj. practice with what you carry.

Uh... That is not advisable...

Do you live in one of those states where hollow points have been outlawed?

A good idea (if its legal in your area) is to practice with a defensive ammunition and then find a training ammunition with minimal shift in impact.

I still fire a few Barnes Tac-XPD everytime I go to the range, just only a few, to make sure my aim is still true.

After those few rounds, I swap to training ammunition that closely resembles the performance for the rest of the session.

Its a very effective way to carry proper defensive ammunition and practice with it while also not spending a ton of money.

 

[Styx]

Uh... That is not advisable...

Do you live in one of those states where hollow points have been outlawed?

A good idea (if its legal in your area) is to practice with a defensive ammunition and then find a training ammunition with minimal shift in impact.

I still fire a few Barnes Tac-XPD everytime I go to the range, just only a few, to make sure my aim is still true.

After those few rounds, I swap to training ammunition that closely resembles the performance for the rest of the session.

Its a very effective way to carry proper defensive ammunition and practice with it while also not spending a ton of money.

If the ammo is reliable and can penetrate far enough to hit vitals, that's all that matters, IMHO. I personally would have zero qualms if I had to defend myself with quality FMJ* rounds. That's what most militaries, NATO, and most non non-American law enforcement use around the world.

 

[MechaDragon]

If the ammo is reliable and can penetrate far enough to hit vitals, that's all that matters, IMHO. I personally would have zero qualms if I had to defend myself with quality JHP rounds. That's what most militaries, NATO, and most non non-American law enforcement use around the world.

Well I mean JHPs are still Hollow Points, they still expand. He said hes carrying FMJs, as in training ammunition.

You can pretty much ask any expert like ex-military, Paul Harrell, the USCCA, literally hundreds of options - Carrying FMJs is a pretty bad idea.

But you are right, if it does the job then it does the job, its just a very high chance it doesn't do the job and passes right through and causes collateral damage instead.

 

[Styx]

Well I mean JHPs are still Hollow Points, they still expand. He said hes carrying FMJs, as in training ammunition.

You can pretty much ask any expert like ex-military, Paul Harrell, the USCCA, literally hundreds of options - Carrying FMJs is a pretty bad idea.

But you are right, if it does the job then it does the job, its just a very high chance it doesn't do the job and passes right through and causes collateral damage instead.

I meant FMJ, sorry. I'm in the habit of typing JHP when discussing ammo. Next, I disagree that FMJs are a bad idea at all. They do the same thing that JHP do with regards of stopping a threat. I also believe the "pass through" thing is overblown. Missing completely, which is something that's common in most law enforcement and civilian shootings, is the reason why theirs collateral damage.

 

[Phaedrus/69]

Generally I carry 147gr +P HST. I haven't seen it for sale for a couple years, just the regular pressure now, but I have enough to last for many years. If I have to carry a 9mm in the woods however I switch to 147gr Underwood hard cast.

 

[MechaDragon]

I meant FMJ, sorry. I'm in the habit of typing JHP when discussing ammo. Next, I disagree that FMJs are a bad idea at all. They do the same thing that JHP do with regards of stopping a threat. I also believe the "pass through" thing is overblown. Missing completely, which is something that's common in most law enforcement and civilian shootings, is the reason why theirs collateral damage.

Ya that much is true, can't disagree with that one.

 

[sgt127]

A few years ago I bought a couple cases of the XM9001. Kind of a very hot Federal 9BP or a slightly reduced 9BPLE. The 115 gr +P+. Really cheap. Supposedly, it was the RCMP load.

If I carry a 9mm, that’s what’s in it.

It was cheap. I have a lot of it. It runs well. I know where it hits.

I have my doubts that a bad guy will really know the difference between that stuff and the most high tech $1 a round offering.

The odds of me being proved wrong are astronomical.

So. I’m good.

 

[MechaDragon]

A few years ago I bought a couple cases of the XM9001. Kind of a very hot Federal 9BP or a slightly reduced 9BPLE. The 115 gr +P+. Really cheap. Supposedly, it was the RCMP load.

If I carry a 9mm, that’s what’s in it.

It was cheap. I have a lot of it. It runs well. I know where it hits.

I have my doubts that a bad guy will really know the difference between that stuff and the most high tech $1 a round offering.

The odds of me being proved wrong are astronomical.

So. I’m good.

True, the price doesn't matter a whole lot. I know the Barnes Tac-XPD is super pricey but I don't really care if its pricey.

I only fire a few rounds per session at the range and then I swap to FMJ trainers with minimal impact shift.

It works incredibly well for saving money while keeping up on your aim with your defensive load.

 

[Hookeye]

115 gr Sig V Crown.

 

[The Night Rider]

I disagree that FMJs are a bad idea at all. They do the same thing that JHP do with regards of stopping a threat.

Do you carry FMJ?

 

[Kleanbore]

I disagree that FMJs are a bad idea at all. They do the same thing that JHP do with regards of stopping a threat. I also believe the "pass through" thing is overblown.

It's not the odds, kit's the stakes.

 

[trackskippy]

How do the stakes fit in when you think that because you're shooting JHP's, you can be taking a shot you wouldn't with FMJ's? Seems to me, that either way, you shouldn't.

Personally, I like the idea of deep to over-penetration, regardless of the type of bullet. Pistol rounds suck as it is, and if I can get more out of it, that's a good thing. Through and through holes are a good thing, as is being able to penetrate cover. A JHP that will "always" expand and still deeply penetrate, would be good thing.

 

[Lo-Profile]

This in both 9mm and 45 ACP

 

[Atavar]

 

[Twisted Chemist]

Hornady 115gr 9mm Critical Defense in the S&W Shield and SA-35, using 115gr Zombie Max for training. 230gr .45 Federal Hydra-Shok for the Ronin 1911.

 

[Random 8]

9mm 124 XTP. Around the time I started carrying a sidearm, I did RO duty when the local LE used our range for practice and qualification. That is what they carried in their sidearms. The SWAT used the same round in both their MP5s and sidearms as their basic service round, although they had special purpose rounds for special purposes. It's not an exotic bullet, and it has a long track record as a LE loading, personal defense bullet, and a hunting pedigree. All those things appealed to me. The fact I could precisely duplicate the load inexpensively for practice appealed to me. The fact I could also approximately duplicate the load very cheaply with a TC FMJ, coated, plated or cast REALLY appealed to me.

I've been shooting it now for some 15 years, and did use it effectively on a black bear. It works, it's butt simple, it ain't going away.