What advantage - 9mm revo. vs .38 spl?

[denfoote]

What?? Huh??!!!

I called customer and asked if the 905 I had was rated for +p. They asked if I was mistaking about the model number and asked if I had a .38 special because they have never heard of +p ammo for a 9mm. After ensuring them that I was in fact asking if the Model 905, chambered for 9mm, was rated for +p the answer was NO. I did not call back to see if maybe someone smarter would answer the phone.

Who did you call??
Brazil???
I can see them not knowing about 9mm +P!!!
At least not by that name!!
Most European 9mm loads are already what we would call +P!!
Blame the bottom feeders (not the pro gun type) for the lower power here!!
If Taurus proofed the 905 to European standards, then it should handle our +P without any problem!!
If not, then the lawyer types have won!!

 

[Feanaro]

why worry about reloading? Just make your 5 or 6 shots count.

You worry about reloading for the same reason you worry about anything else: because feces happens. Perhaps, despite your training, you miss with every shot. Or perhaps you hit with every one and you ain't killed the bugger yet. Perhaps having a reload won't save you even then. But wouldn't it really suck if you need one?

One can, of course, invent scenarios until you are afraid to leave your house without a Sherman tank and fifty retired Marines. But such measures will prevent you from living your normal life. Having a reload and/or a firearm that can be reloaded quickly won't keep you from doing that. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Another main advantage the .38 has is the ability to use any bullet design it wants- revolvers are not picky about feeding different bullets. This allows the revolver to shoot bullets with a deep, wide hollow point that would never feed in an automatic. Try loading a 158gr lead hollow point, with that huge hollow cavity in a 9mm casing. Then, IF you got it to load and feed, try pushing it to 900fps or so out of a 3" barrel.

Well and good, but what does the feeding profile of 9mm in an automatic have to do with a thread about revolvers? Let us compare apples with apples. How many semiauto pistols could feed a .38 special at all? Even with modifications?

 

[357wheelgunner]

"Well and good, but what does the feeding profile of 9mm in an automatic have to do with a thread about revolvers? Let us compare apples with apples. How many semiauto pistols could feed a .38 special at all? Even with modifications?"


Why would anyone sully the .38 special and try to put it into an autopistol? Revolvers are great the way they are, that is why people try to jimmy the 9mm and .45 into them

 

[Jim K]

The only reason for the 9mm revolver is that some police departments, mostly foreign, wanted to keep revolvers for PR reasons and still get cheap 9mm ammo from the military. There are also older cops, mostly plain clothes types, who like the revolver but want commonality of ammo with the auto pistols carried by the uniforms.

There are no reasons power wise to choose 9mm over .38 Special; the choice for power would be the other way around.

Jim

 

[Okiecruffler]

I was looking at a 905I just last week. Neat little gun and I almost fell for it. But for about the same size and weight I could just buy another Keltec P-11 and have 2X+ the ammo, and no matter how fast I got with clips, I'm sure I would still be faster with mags. So I'll stick with my 357 snubby, throwing 125gr of meaness at 1250fps. But I'm sure they'll sell a few crates of them.
And while it's true you could load any kind of bullet in a 9mm revolver and it would feed, there ain't alot of .355 wadcutters out there.

 

[another48hrs]

Taurus is coming out with a revolver called the Triad, it fires 9mm/38spcl/357mag.

 

[snubby]

Any more info on the Triad? Sounds like something to wait for!

 

[another48hrs]

I saw the triad guns at Shot Show. They come in 5rnd snubnose in blue and stainless. They also have a tracker version which is sort of like a Lframe with porting and in 7rnds. The person working the booth says that they can chamber for all three rounds, but 9mm needs to use special moonclips from Taurus. I was very interested in the snub nose.

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

Coupla comments.

First, the 9mm might be good for a smaller carry gun. I have thought they might be interesting. (Movie scenario: Hero runs out of 9mm ammo for his revolver, scoops up some rounds for a BG he just offed and goes after the other BGs while pushing rounds out of the magazine and into the moonclip. Uh, yeah.)

Seems like I've seen the 9mm/.39/.357 concept somewhere before. Don't know the realities, but some conversation was that the slightly undersized 9mm might not fly as well out of this as out of a dedicated 9mm handgun.

However, a .357 magnum chambered revolver can handle the .38 spl for quick shots, maybe lighter weight and shorter brass than the .357 mags and then the big mean thingies, too. Personally, I load all my .38 spl rounds with 158 gr bullets at about 900+ fps.

Moonclips for .38 spl and .357 mags are common. My 686+ and 627 are so equipped and the M66 is in line for a conversion.

 

[Tacoma]

I'm not a huge taurus fan but I'll give them credit. This triad concept adds ALLOT of versitility to a snubbie IMHO! 3 calibers out of one gun. Talk about ammo options. I'm sure 9mm accuracy would suffer somewhat due to diamiter differences but it's probobly more than accurate enough for what a snubbie is designed/needed for.