What are you going to do with the Ruger/Gunsite Scout?

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That weight is just a concept, much like the Scout concept. If Scout rifles continue with popularity, you will see an evolution.

I'll buy one this year, probably 1st or 2nd quarter.
 
I think it's a cool gun and if I had an extensive gun budget, I'd buy one. However, for the retail price, I can pick up a 336 in 30-30 and quite a bit of ammo and have money left over for a good ghost ring sight.

Considering the terrain of Northern New England where I live, the .308 doesn't have a practical edge over the 30-30, but it burns more powder. Yes, I know that the .308 delivers better math than the 30-30, but at 100 yards or less, nothing you hit will be able to tell the difference between the two chamberings.
 
Well, I just picked one up. I hope to get to the range next weekend. I'll include pictures.
 
I just heard that Ruger is going to have to modify them for export.....seems the export people down south feel that flash hiders are a threat to US security!
 
I was digging around the safe and pulled out my enfield carbine today

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Dont see a need for a scope, otherwise the enfield does everything just as well. Mine is "ruger accurate" as well about 5"groups at 100yards
 
That looks like a "Jungle Carbine" was my first impression. Neither are beauty queens but both have appeal to me, probably because I can visualize myself walking around in the woods with one of these.

The 308 is a great cartridge because it is so versatile. I'll be working up a number of loads including 115 grain Subsonic Grouse Getters to full power Jacketed loads with a good heavy cast bullet intermediate general purpose load.

The stock sights are a little coarser than I'd like but they look simple and rugged which is a priority to me on a rifle that goes in the field. I really like that the rifle is EASILY adapted to whatever sight system I choose.

The magazine projects too far but 5 rounders are available thru Ruger for $64 each (ouch). The discount they give when you register the rifle will take some of the sting out of that but I'd much rather pay half that much.

I have mixed feelings about the flash hider. I'll have to decide once I try it.

I like the adjustable length of pull but I'm not a big fan of recoil pads. I don't even have them on my 30-06 or 45-70s as I found soft pads tend to catch clothing when being brought to the shoulder quickly.

Spoke with my local fun pusher and he's ordered me one. Came in under $800 including the tax.

Can't wait to get it to the range.
 
If for hunting, wouldnt just a regular M77 Hawkeye work just as well or better?
If for SHTF, wouldn't you rather have an AR or AK or M1A or other semi auto?
Some people just can't seem to get the idea of the Scout rifle. Yes, a specialized rifle will be better at a specialized task than the Scout, but the strength of the Scout is its flexibility.

Turning around the OP's questions, for hunting the Scout would be better than a typical semiautomatic battle rifle, and for self-defence the Scout would be better than a typical scoped, long barreled bolt action.

If you already have a gun vault full of specialized guns for each role, there isn't much point in owning a Scout, too, but if you just have one centerfire rifle available for every task (whether that is just one total, or just one with you) the Scout makes an attractive choice.

That said, IMO Ruger's implementation is not quite perfect. I certainly think a lighter composite stock would have been preferable to the laminate stock used, Im not sure but that I might rather have another inch of barrel in place of the flash hider, and the magazines could certainly be a bit cheaper. Overall, however, the fact that it is quite a bit cheaper than the old Steyr Scout, and has more features than the current Savace Scout, does make it IMO possibly the best production implementation of the Scout concept to date.

Personally, I am seriously considering it as my own "do it all" rifle.
 
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I would shoot it on a benchrest next to the mall ninja guys to let them feel the full blast from a .308 going off next to their tacticool guns.
Oh wait that's what happens normally. ;)
.223's with 3-gun Brakes are annoying though, Made me want a 12" .308
 
Some people just can't seem to get the idea of the Scout rifle. Yes, a specialized rifle will be better at a specialized task than the Scout, but the strength of the Scout is its flexibility.

Turning around the OP's questions, for hunting the Scout would be better than a typical semiautomatic battle rifle, and for self-defence the Scout would be better than a typical scoped, long barreled bolt action.

If you already have a gun vault full of specialized guns for each role, there isn't much point in owning a Scout, too, but if you just have one centerfire rifle available for every task (whether that is just one total, or just one with you) the Scout makes an attractive choice.

That said, IMO Ruger's implementation is not quite perfect. I certainly think a lighter composite stock would have been preferable to the laminate stock used, Im not sure but that I might rather have another inch of barrel in place of the flash hider, and the magazines could certainly be a bit cheaper. Overall, however, the fact that it is quite a bit cheaper than the old Steyr Scout, and has more features than the current Savace Scout, does make it IMO possibly the best production implementation of the Scout concept to date.

Personally, I am seriously considering it as my own "do it all" rifle.
Nice to read a post by somebody who actually "gets it"! :)
 
I spent quite a bit of time handling the Scout rifle and talking to the Scout program manager at the SHOT show. I was very impressed with him, his thought process and the rifle. Polymer mags are in the works at less than $30 each, but regardless, this rifle is on my "must have" list. I already have a bunch of AICS 5 and 10-round mags and .308 Win is without a doubt my favorite cartridge. I'm not a huge fan of the polymer trigger guard but just about everything else is excellent. The controlled feed, 3-position safety, 10-round detachable magazine, short barrel, adjustable LOP, perfect palm swell and comb, etc.

For anyone who has or who plans to buy one, the forward action screw should be torqued to 90 in-lb and should be checked regularly over the first X number of rounds as the action settles into the laminate stock. Another thing coming from XS is a mount that will allow the installation of a regular scope. It just gets better. When I buy one, I'll swap out the M4 style flash hider for a Blackout from AAC. Next would be an AAC suppressor.
 
If you already have a gun vault full of specialized guns for each role, there isn't much point in owning a Scout, too, but if you just have one centerfire rifle available for every task (whether that is just one total, or just one with you) the Scout makes an attractive choice.

I disagree. I don't see the scout doing anything that a regular bolt action with a 1-4x scope on it can't do equally well.
 
Two things I would have liked to see would be a good two-stage trigger and stainless receiver and barrel (painted black). According to the program manager, Ruger wanted to stick to a specific MSRP so stainless wasn't an option. But all in all, what's not to like? It's short and light with a 1:10 twist, 5 or 10-round mags are available, iron sights are available in addition to the other features I already mentioned. I like it and I bet Ruger has no problem selling it.
 
The only thing I don't like about the rifle is the stock. They came out with a completely different type of rifle than any other offering in the Ruger lineup and went with a typical stock. I would have liked to see something different. Not sure exactly what, but definitely not wood. Maybe some kind of modular setup, but synthetic for sure.
 
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I couldn't agree with you more; those are my thoughts exactly about the Scout Rifle as well. This rifle is definitely something that has caught my interest and I look forward to reading some reviews on its performance.
 
Some people just can't seem to get the idea of the Scout rifle.

I think everyone gets it, the scout rifle is highly specialized at being unspecialized. It is mediocre at all tasks, and neither superior or abysmal at anything.
 
It would have even been better with a 30 round AR mag.

The original scout concept didn't have a detachable magazine.
 
The original scout concept didn't have a detachable magazine.
I believe you are going to find "Scout", just like "AR", is an evolutionary word and concept.

I like the detachable mag.
 
I'm a Cooper fan and I liked reading his writings in the past, but it's too bad that Cooper came up with the Scout concept instead of just some gun manufacturer. For some, Cooper is held up as a messiah and his Scout concept is held to like biblical fundamentalism. That's too bad, adaptability of ideas are not always a bad thing.

It seems the biggest hang up people have with this rifle is that it has the name Scout on it. Ruger could have just called it Tactical and all this gnashing of teeth might not be happening.

Personally, I don't care if it says Scout on it or even Gunsite. This Ruger does appear to be a fine multi-purpose rifle in its own right.

For me, the comparison to the Enfield Jungle Carbine is exactly what I think of when I see this new Ruger. Just more easily mounted with glass, that's all. :cool:
 
Some people are just never gonna have nice things to say no matter what. Some shooters seem to take pride in being overly critical and hating everything.
 
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