What do feds carry? How about CIA?

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Actually it has an excellent record for stopping power. And the jamming (actually malfunctions) are a function of poor maintence and wrong powder selection in the early days.

And being a police firearms instructor, you undoubtedly know more about how the M16A1 performed in Vietnam than an actual Vietnam veteran. :rolleyes:
 
The NSA used to have field Agents, they served 2 functions depending on assignment,; one to investigate internal security (as in Falcon &Snowman) and two to supervise collection sites or operations. They were armed with S&W model 12 snubies and M19 's in the 70's;)
 
And being a police firearms instructor, you undoubtedly know more about how the M16A1 performed in Vietnam than an actual Vietnam veteran.
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History is recorded. You don't always have to be there to know the truth. As a Colt AR15/M16 Armorer I have had a chance to get to know the history and strenghts and weakness of this weapon system. Besides plenty of Vietnam Vets love this rifle. I know how the AR15/M16 family does today in the LEO field and its doing very well.
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Also realize that police issue ammo is probably some type of hollow point while all military ammo is FMJ. That alone would make a world of difference in stopping power.
Actually you're right about the early ammo selection, howerver Cleaning is critical. Look at the problems they're having in Iraq/Afghan. Lack of stopping power (especially in Afghan) and many malfunctions. Sounds kind of familiar..............
 
Standard issue handgun for the CIA is the Glock 19. Some security officers carry SIG's. That is changing, and soon all officers will carry the Glock. Officers are issued handguns according to assignment, if they have completed necessary training.
 
Jammin' Jenny in the 'Nam

The M-16s that were in transition early on were prone to jamming, and many did. The fault was not only with the powder, pressure curves, and
cyclic rate, but MAINLY due to poor maintenance. The A1s and the little
comic books pretty much put an end to the problems, as long as the
'Leven bang bang wasn't slack on keepin'em clean. In the muck?
Just snap the little bolt cover shut. Remember to crack the bolt if
there was a chance of water in the barrel, so it would drain, and the
little black rifle would do as well as any.

I was a clean freak. The ones that I saw hang up were usually as
filthy as a dirt road. I also believed in fresh extractors and springs
at every opportunity.

Semper Fi!

Tuner
 
The list is incorrect in at least one or two areas.
National Park Service Rangers can carry any full size Sig they want, the one I attended a course with carried a Sig P220.

This is correct regarding NPS Rangers, although .357 SIG has not been approved. The HK P7M13 pistols mentioned in the link are carried by U.S. Park Police (who are stationed in D.C., NYC, and San Fran.), and have never been carried by NPS Rangers.
 
I have heard that the US Marshall Service is transitioning to Glock 22's next year. Up to now/next year they could carry other pistols if they were on an approved list. The list included Sig's, and some other DA autos including the Para Ord.
 
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