what do i need now

[P99waltherP99]

I have a:
Walther P99 9mm
kimber pro cdp .45ACP
glock 17 9mm
FN tactical police shotgun .12 guage

I am wanting a smaller pistol, like a walther ppk and wont buy the S&W one.
to get one from germany will cost me 1500. what other pistols do you guys reccommend that are about the size of a walther ppk yet not smaller than a beretta tomcat .32 acp.

 

[psyopspec]

Lately a guy can't swing a dead cat without hitting a pocket guns thread. I'd probably start with the search function to see what you can dredge up.

 

[XavierBreath]

How about a German Walther PP Pistol in .32ACP for $279.00?
SOG has them.

Historic semi-auto pistol first introduced in 1928. There are many variations of the model PP (police pistol) that were manufactured by the German Walther plant during the Nazi Regime. These particular pistols were made for the commercial market and are a very desirable addition to any collection. They are surplus from a German government agency and have been in their warehouses since the late 1970’s. These are nice! Very good condition in box with 2 magazines, cleaning rod and manual.

 

[KINGMAX]

I don' see a wheel gun listed. Have you considered a

wheel gun of some type. Consider a concealable wheel gun of some sort. What is the story on a S&W ?? $1500.00 ?? Did you say something about GERMANY ??

How about a good grade TARUAS in a 38 spl rated for +P. That would be a great backup for your list of semi-auto's.

Just one man's humble opinion. What counts is what you want.

 

[P99waltherP99]

Smith and Wesson got the license from walther to produce the ppk. The plant in Germany makes them but to get one in the states meants to buy one from smith and wesson for 350 buks, or get one imported from germany for 1500 buks. The quality is noticeably different at a first glance.

As far as a wheelgun goes i forgot to mention i have a .357 S&W
woops. Anyway ill look into that taurus cause i shot one a while back and found it to be pretty accurate and comfortable. Ill also look into the PP.

 

[geekWithA.45]

I'm not sure what you're after here, so I'll randomly toss out some thoughts.

If you like the PPK form factor, check out the Bersa. It's less expensive, but the trigger's a lot nicer, IMO. I considered one for backup, but the safety is lefty hostile.

If you like the .380 aspect, look into the Kel-tec P3AT. It's fantastic in the role of a BUG, and lefty neutral to boot.

 

[kirkcdl]

You need a Makarov!If that's too large in physical size,try an FEG/KBI Model SMC 918,which is chambered in 9mm Mak,there's a guy on here selling some at a really good price,can't beat it for a pocket gun...

 

[ARTiger]

+1 on a Bersa. Great gun for the money. Better trigger than the PPK same basic design. Load up with hot .380's and it's a good hot weather CCW that disappears in most any garb.

 

[ugaarguy]

+1 on the Kel-Tec P-3AT...

...I love mine. Inexpensive, slim, light, and reliable Many of the older KTs needed a "Fluff & Buff" - a little smoothing and polishing; my newer production P3AT did not. It's been stone reliable out of the box. My experience is consistent with what I've seen posted here and at www.ktog.org on newer KTs. Kel-Tec has upped their quality control of late and they're putting out a great product. I think you'll like either of the little P-3s (P-3AT in 380 ACP or P-32 in 32 ACP).

 

[TC-TX]

+1 on the Bersa...
+1 on the KT P-3AT...

I own both, and both are in my Regular Carry Stable - Rock-Solid reliable and fun to shoot!

(then take a look at the SIG P-232 - WOW What a Great Gun!)

 

[candr44]

Take a look at the CZ83. It is about the same size and holds 13 rounds of
.380 ammo. It also comes in 9x18 and .32 but they are harder to find. It is also accurate and the recoil is mild.

 

[KINGMAX]

CZ-83

Yes - Do take a look at a CZ-83. If you like a Walther, you will love a CZ-83. Very accurate for a .380. It looks great in Stainless Steel.

 

[LanEvo`]

what do i need now
I have a:
Walther P99 9mm
kimber pro cdp .45ACP
glock 17 9mm
FN tactical police shotgun .12 guage

You've already got a .38/.357mag revolver, a pair of 9x19mm's, a 1911, and a 12 gauge. What you're missing is an AR-15 I'd say! Either that or a quality .22LR match pistol.

 

[Shipwreck]

+1 on the Bersa for me too

 

[modifiedbrowning]

Go with the Bersa.

 

[RNB65]

+1 on the AR15. Ammo is fairly cheap and they're a lot of fun to shoot.

 

[P99waltherP99]

Thanks

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Yes - Do take a look at a CZ-83. If you like a Walther, you will love a CZ-83. Very accurate for a .380. It looks great in Stainless Steel.
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From the info, I guess I want either a CZ-83 or a kel-tec. As for the AR-15 family i dont think i will ever buy one. I used an M-16A4 and an M-4 in the army. All I can say is that I wish we were issued the HK G-36 or a galil instead. The M-16A4 and the M-4 were great for me because I obsessively keep my weapons clean. I cant say the same for some of my buddies that had problems with them. My philosophy is you shouldnt have to keep your weapon clean to expect reliability, but you should clean your weapons to ensure reliability.

 

[cz75bdneos22]

CZ 83
browning/bertta BDA

 

[Bobo]

What would be its main purpose?
Secondary purpose, etc.?

 

[sm]

-Training.
-At least two backup guns just like the one you trained with to CCW every day.

Repeat with Shotguns for HD.
Repeat with Long guns for HD

Repeat for any hunting, firearm shooting events you compete or participate in.

Redundancy is good, especially in training and practice. Firearms just one tool used to do this training and practice with.

 

[j1133s]

Kahr PM9
Kahr mk9
(or the 40s&w version)

 

[RNB65]

My philosophy is you shouldnt have to keep your weapon clean to expect reliability, but you should clean your weapons to ensure reliability.

In that case, you clearly need an AK or SKS!

 

[P99waltherP99]

LOL

Your right i do need an AK. However here is my other quirk, I will not buy a rifle unless it is meant to be a semi-auto or bolt action rifle. In other words I wont buy a semi auto AK cause that is like buying a broken fully auto weapon. I have no desire to buy a licence allowing me to do so.


Where in Richmond are you from?

 

[ugaarguy]

P99, sent you a PM on a PPK/S, non S&W.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Take a look at the CZ83

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My thoughts exactly. Well built and reasonably priced.

Also, though slightly larger, the Berretta 84 and 85 are great little .380's. I have an Inox 84 (bought for the wife before she commandeered the S&W 4006), and it is a great little shooter. Will also handle loads that push upwards of 250 ft/lbs (which I consider pretty warm for the .380). The Beretta's do run a little more ($500-$600), but are worth it.