chieftain
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The last official shoot off that I am aware of was by the Ohio State Police.
The competition was brought about because of the unreliability of the Beretta 96. Unreliability in actual REAL LIFE fire fights. Please don't argue with me, this is facts not opinions.
So they had a shoot off. had to be 40 cal or better, read that 40 S&W and 45acp.
No ones 45acp finished, yup they were all DNF. SIG, HK, Glock etc.
The SIG 226 was the winner followed very closely by the SIG 229, the HK USP, and then the Glock.
They were all very close, but that is how they finished.
The OHIO state police also had a subjective scale that finished pretty close to the actual shoot out.
So the troopers wound up with the SIG's.
So who is the most reliable? No official competition I know of has Glock ever won. But they like HK are usually very close. Close enough that one can say there is no or not much difference.
But if you want the most reliable. Get a SIG.
Even the Military contest in the mid to early 80's was won by SIG. Then they went back for a re-bid, and miraculously the Beretta folks won by a few cents over the SIG folks. Oh and the US got the missle base they had been wanting from Italy too. Yea!
A friend of mine, a former Soldier and a deputy at the Sheriff Dept I was with, was one of the troops directly shooting the guns during the military competition. One day I will tell you his story about it, as told to me.
There is a lot of other criteria involved with selecting a fighting handgun, and they don't always match what is needed for a Home defense handgun, or CCW handgun. They have different criteria themselves in each area, Home defense, CCW, military combat, police patrol etc....
But if you want the most reliable in any kind of quantified way, you would have to go with SIG.
And by the way. Regardless of Brand, the 9mm WILL ALWAYS, be more reliable than the 40 or 45. Thanks primarily to the 9mm tapered case.
Go figure.
Fred
The competition was brought about because of the unreliability of the Beretta 96. Unreliability in actual REAL LIFE fire fights. Please don't argue with me, this is facts not opinions.
So they had a shoot off. had to be 40 cal or better, read that 40 S&W and 45acp.
No ones 45acp finished, yup they were all DNF. SIG, HK, Glock etc.
The SIG 226 was the winner followed very closely by the SIG 229, the HK USP, and then the Glock.
They were all very close, but that is how they finished.
The OHIO state police also had a subjective scale that finished pretty close to the actual shoot out.
So the troopers wound up with the SIG's.
So who is the most reliable? No official competition I know of has Glock ever won. But they like HK are usually very close. Close enough that one can say there is no or not much difference.
But if you want the most reliable. Get a SIG.
Even the Military contest in the mid to early 80's was won by SIG. Then they went back for a re-bid, and miraculously the Beretta folks won by a few cents over the SIG folks. Oh and the US got the missle base they had been wanting from Italy too. Yea!
A friend of mine, a former Soldier and a deputy at the Sheriff Dept I was with, was one of the troops directly shooting the guns during the military competition. One day I will tell you his story about it, as told to me.
There is a lot of other criteria involved with selecting a fighting handgun, and they don't always match what is needed for a Home defense handgun, or CCW handgun. They have different criteria themselves in each area, Home defense, CCW, military combat, police patrol etc....
But if you want the most reliable in any kind of quantified way, you would have to go with SIG.
And by the way. Regardless of Brand, the 9mm WILL ALWAYS, be more reliable than the 40 or 45. Thanks primarily to the 9mm tapered case.
Go figure.
Fred
