What does "proud of the receiver" mean???

[mick53]

Hi,

I'm talking to a guy about buying a 1959 vintage Winch. Model 12 from him. I've seen pics. It looks pretty nice.

The metal finish is original. The stock and fore end, while original, have been refinished. In an email he says "the stock is proud of the receiver." I haven't a clue what that means. Any of you guys know?

Also, does having refinished, but original wood, diminish the shotgun's value in any way?

Thanks.

 

[HGM22]

I believe it means "sticks up past", as in the two objects are not flush fit. I could be wrong and I'd wait until some others chime in.

 

[mjsdwash]

literally means sticking out, as in not fully fitted, or fitted a little over (rounded to the receiver) as an intentional fit. Stock to receiver.

 

[mick53]

The seller says "proud of the reveiver" is how the Winch. Model 12 is supposed to fit. True?

 

[Liberty1776]

It depends. It depends on how far and which series. The older ones tend to be more "flush" but the Model 12 was always a mass-produced firearm, and except for the higher grades or custom shop models "one stock fit all". A slight edge to the stock is generally nothing at all to worry about. And refinished wood generally will only diminish the value of the gun if it's a pristine like-new collector grade.

 

[mick53]

Thanks for the answers. he says the "proud of the receiver" is done intentionally.

He saidif the stock is smaller than the receiver where they meet over time this contributes to cracking and so on.

Sounds logical, I guess.

Mick

 

[rcmodel]

Here is what a field grade gun should look like.
Notice the grip is proud of the receiver.

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=49427
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=45985

does having refinished, but original wood, diminish the shotgun's value in any way?

Yes. How much depends on how skillfully it was refinished.

rc

 

[oneounceload]

Proud means there is some extr thickness to allow for one or more refinishing of the stock

It is a good thing

 

[mick53]

Thank you, gentleman. What a great bunch of guys here.

Mick

 

[Tom Held]

correct

Yes, it's one of the ways to distinguish an original model 12 or model 42 from one that has been refinished and you also look for raised edge sharpness on the receiver. Tom