What gun for . . . Rosie O' Donnell's security guards?

[grimjaw]

What gun for . . . celebrity security guards?

Actually, I was just curious as to the laws regarding personal security detail in places that normally restrict ownership and concealed carry. I don't mean government security for dignitaries and the like. I'm talking about hired security for private use, similar to what someone like O' Donnell or other celebrities might be able to afford. Can they carry in Cali, Chicago, NYC, DC, etc? How is that legislated?

jm

 

[Manedwolf]

How is that legislated?

Money talks.

 

[slzy]

i would imagine rosie carrys a one handled rolling pin.

 

[grimjaw]

Seriously, though. I saw yet another thread on "what's the minimum SD round for self defense" and I was going to humorously chime in "whatever Rosie's security detail uses." Then I thought, well, what the heck do they use assuming they can use anything at all besides bad breath, an unpleasant stare and a choke hold.

jm

 

[Alexfubar]

They should carry fragmentation grenades. With short lanyards on them

 

[bigjimbo]

I would hope someone I had for protection knew more than just how to fire a gun. Most of those guys are ex-military and know hand-to-hand self defense.

 

[Sheldon J]

seeing as how my Personal opinion of her is about the same as that of Hillary, I would suggest a clown gun, you know the kind that when you point it and pull the trigger a flag pops out that says "Bang" after all who would really want to protect her even for hire.

 

[Parvenu]

when paris hilton came to ireland a few weeks ago for a new perfume of hers i think she had a " gun guard" which apparently was just some moron with a gun who was allowed to shoot any one who endangered paris.

I dont think any one here in ireland gives a **** about some one whos catch phrase is " thats hot", but I guess she needed to feel important.

 

[Wedge]

A grease gun.

No not the one from WWII

The one from the Mechanic section of Sears.

Filled with Crisco instead of gear lube

 

[Parvenu]

are you saying thats what her guard has? I thought she would just sexually wear out the attacker until his libido gave out.

 

[grimjaw]

*sigh*

Mods, please go ahead and close this one. It's not going anywhere but down. My apologies.

jm

 

[Euclidean]

A marshmallow gun in case she gets hungry?

Seriously there are all sorts of different laws about armed security state to state, it's hard to say.

 

[GVMan]

Hired guns

I believe that the standard practice for most armed security personnel is to have a Concealed Carry permit in their own State and in States frequently traveled in. They also rely on reciprocity where applicable. However, when traveling to a place like Washington D.C, the normal security detail would go unarmed but would hire armed locals, off duty types for example, to work along side with.

 

[runfrumu]

this one:

 

[Cliff47]

Runfrumu, that's it, the legendary Smithinski-Wessonowski.

I bet the guards will just stand back and let dear Rosie be attacked. Last I heard, she leads with her mouth. I'm waiting for The Donald to purchase her contract from 'The View', then utter those two famous words 'You're fired!'.

 

[Roadwild17]

OK OK seriously. Money talks & I believe being a hired goon would pass as "a reason" to carry. Then like what GV said, get locals when the goons couldn't cray, You know all the "safe" cities like DC, NY, and Chicagoland.

 

[armedandsafe]

Rosie's guards wouldn't dare use a potato gun. She'd eat all their ammo. Then again, maybe they would? Perhaps good for bonuses?

Pops

 

[oneshooter]

They carry the latest, most powerfull PC weapons available!

Seriously, the laws are vastly different for each state. Many states do not/will not recognise the permits from other states.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

 

[KINGMAX]

Avoid it I say

Avoid it - I do

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Business Opportinity?

Hmmm.

If celebs have guys around who get to carry pretty much anywhere, it is assumed that they have permits from . . . pretty much everywhere.

So, it would be reasonable to assume that "personal security" is a valid "reason to carry" even in states fond of "access denied" as their standard response on your permit application.

So, what are the licensing requirements for hanging out a shingle as a "personal security" operative? Would you have to be a PI? Do you just file the fictitious name, open a bank account, pay for business license and pass go (collect $200)?

Or would you have to prove you're protecting somebody REALLY IMPORTANT or REALLY FAMOUS (or are those the same thing)?

Anyone? Bueller?

 

[30 cal slob]

guns?

pffft. a high capacity jelly doughnut dispenser is more likely.

p.s. she originally resided in Greenwich, CT, where just about anyone can get a CCW.

 

[RustyShackelford]

RO-Kmart-armed EP agents...

I do remember when RO had her big dust up with Tom Selleck over guns and the NRA. Rosie got a lot of flack for her Kmart ads( a store that sold ammo/firearms) and for employing armed security/EP agents to watch her kids .

Her double standards and rude conduct make me like her less and less .

I hate when celebs say or do something about a cause then get caught doing the exact same thing! :banghead:

Rusty

 

[sacp81170a]

What guns for Rosie O'Donnell's security guards? Why, anything you would use for a zombie, I suppose.

 

[khadre]

She stepping on Donald Trump's toes now and it's making all over the airwaves currently. She's calling him all kind of names (i.e. a pimp b/c he owns all the Ms. Universe and Ms. USA pageants, etc.) and Donald is not backing down in his counter attack either (calling her an Ellen Degeneres...it's so funny to watch the stuff he says about her....

But back to the original questions: I would assume whoever she's farming out the PS to, would have contacts or like someone above says, 'money talks' ...

 

[Spreadfire Arms]

Texas CHL vs. Texas PPO License

in Texas, there is a difference between someone with a CHL and someone with a PPO (Personal Protection Officer - Level IV) License.

a CHL only allows you to carry a handgun for self protection or protection of a 3rd party, but not for hire.

if you are going to be a bodyguard, or paid/compensated as the services of a bodyguard or as a part of a PSD, then you are required to have a different license. this license is also issued from the Texas DPS (Dept of Public Safety) but it is issued from their Private Security Bureau. you would need to take the non-commissioned (non-gun carrying) portions of their training called Level I and Level II. then you would need to take the Level III training which is the Commissioned Security Offficer training (40-50 hours of training and allows you to carry a gun as a uniformed, armed security officer).

then, if you want to be a plainclothes bodyguard you have to take a Level IV training program (about 16 hours). you also have to take and pass the MMPI (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory) which is a written psychological exam to ensure you are psychologically fit for duty (i guess). it is the same written portion of the psychological exam that most LEO's take for their jobs.

with all of those steps then you can work as a bodyguard for hire, in Texas. there is currently a LEO exemption where LEO's can work as Level III/IV officers in Texas.

hope this helps. i cant tell you about other states.