What is a good AR/evil rifle forum?

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And please don't say AR15.com. I know there's lots of good things there, but the forum general layout is crazy amateurish - it gives me a headache just trying to navigate the place - and for non-paying members many basic forum features are blocked. So I'm looking for a more professional and welcoming, if somewhat less popular, alternative.

I'd like to find a good forum for advice, knowledgeable members, and also parts swapping. Must be something else good?
 
M4Carbine.net is the best source I have found for info on professional-quality, M4 type rifles. The website is biased towards top-quality fighting rifles, so that is the place to go if that's what you're into. One of the more prominent members there, Iraq Gunz, once said (paraphrasing), "this ain't IHuntCoyotes.com".

If you're more into budget carbines, bench-shooting, or gimicky-just-for-fun stuff, AR15.com is unfortunately your best bet.

This website also has a lot of users knowledgeable about AR-15s, but no dedicated forum for the black rifles.
 
I'll be surprised if you can't find answers to your questions here. Not to say this is the perfect forum for anything related to every gun under the Sun, cause nothing's perfect. However, there is an enormous wealth of knowledge here; and it seems like the AR15 makes up a large part of it.
 
M4carbine is a great place with some very knowledgable people but like mentioned it is mainly for people with their weapons geared towards combat weapons and you will not find many people advocating anything other than top notch gear. If you are more of a plinker and don't care about those things you will find more than enough info here IMO. Not to say you can't find what you need here otherwise as there are very knowledgeable people here as we'll but M4C is a wealth of knowledge for what it is. arfcom has great stickies for building ARs but I don't care for the format otherwise as it can be hard to find other specific info if it isn't in the stickies. I built my guns mainly from those resources.

I've gotten great advice from all three sites, it helps to know the general culture and how it fits your needs/goals.
 
Well part of my interest is early guns, SP1's from '63 to '80 say. I am looking for a place I can ask vagaries of s/n or production variances from year to year in that range. I know arfcom can do that, but jeez, being made to feel like a 2nd class troll there is hard to bear.

I up front ask no one suggest arfcom, but you did. So here's why:

I don't care about cheap and quick or "qz vs. aa" manufacturer tweaks or differences. Pics of guns with tactical toasters and quad-railed snack holders don't amuse me. But I appreciate that arfcom has knowledge despite this juvenile approach and fan base. But in the gap I've been there, unless you "buy in," you aren't allowed to search forums effectively (only one word searches, only recent posts, and only once in a while), you can't get notices of responses to posts, you can't subscribe to threads and get instant or even daily notices. I mean, these are basic functions of something that calls itself a "forum." Lest you argue otherwise, that word -"forum"- is not new, it is from classical antiquity, actually. it denotes a place of public congregation without bias. Given their efforts to discourage the public, they are a private club now, and masquerade as a forum. I used to use them regularly mid-decade, took a hiatus to really work on my S&W and Colt auto collections from 2007 to now. When I go back, it's like they don't want me. it's not a "forum." It's a private club. And I notice relative to five or six years ago, traffic is way down. Which is entirely counter to what a popular public forum should have done in the gun community in the last six years.

So I will check out M4carbine more; I have heard of them but was leery as while I do have a carbine, I mostly like AR rifles. So the name off the top sounded like it wasn't the place. And I have some questions I feel technical and didn't think were appropriate here, but I'll toss them out and try. Many of you are probably correct, the knowledge is there or here. You just have to let it in. (to badly paraphrase Robert Parker).

But it's just a shame there isn't an over-arching ar15 forum that is welcoming and open. Makes me cherish more and more what a gem 1911forum.com is despite the passage of years.
 
Despite the kids, the technical knowledge on ARFCOM can be impressive. I also look to Lightfighter. This site is fine, but there is are too many Fudds that want to tell you that your AR is inferior to their all-steel rifle from WWI and that the M16 they carried in 'Nam was made by Mattel and wouldn't fire two shots without jamming. Over at ARFCOM, there are people willing to talk about new things without having to listen to people make remarks about tactical toasters and quad railed snack holders. And hey, if the $1.66 per month is too much for you to bear for a few extra features, then don't go there. Your rant about ARFCOM was just a little too long to not sound like sour grapes. If you don't want to go there, don't, and just ignore the people suggesting it.
 
Your butthurt rant about ARFCOM was just a little too long to not sound like sour grapes. If you don't want to go there, don't, and just ignore the people suggesting it.

"Butthurt rant.."? Could you really not use a more adult phrasing without being scatalogical?

Hey, my criticism is the forum layout is confusing and the functionality is severely limited. These are technical comments and not at all personal. Yours, however is and not really on point. No sour grapes, just adult observations.
 
Maybe I should have said whiney. I understood the point to be locating a forum to suit your needs besides ARFCOM, but if you were just looking for an excuse to launch into how difficult and confusing a site that right this minute has 12K people on it is, then, my bad...

Carry on...
 
I like both M4C and ARFCOM.

FYI, you are more likely to get good search results from using google than any search feature from a site.

"site:thehighroad.org (what you want to search for)" should be your friend. Better than THR's search, better than ARFCOM, better than TFL etc.
 
Maybe I should have said whiney. I understood the point to be locating a forum to suit your needs besides ARFCOM, but if you were just looking for an excuse to launch into how difficult and confusing a site that right this minute has 12K people on it is, then, my bad...

Carry on...


Yes, your bad. I pointed out some really real and verifiable points. Instead of discussing why those views might have counter-arguments, you responded with an ad hominem attack. Not very "High Road."

I wasn't "looking for an excuse." Were I, I could have done that up front in the first post. But it came up, so I responded and in a factual and detailed way, free of attack or insult. Kinda "High Road." See the theme here?
 
ar15.com is great. A TON of good info tt's not that hard to navigate. It really isn't. I like that there are direct vendor sub-forums.

That said, AR's don't even REALLY need a forum. They are so basic, you can figure most anything about, even if you have to Google it. But if you get really stuck there are enough folks here who can help you out.
 
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