What is it and where to find parts?

[fatelk]

I'm quite new to black powder revolvers, but I have two of them sitting here. One is mine, just bought it a couple weeks ago but don't have any powder or lead yet. The other is one a friend sent with me to see if I could figure out what it needs. It was given to him and he knows absolutely nothing about it (he thought it was original- it's not)

It is stamped EIG NAVY on the top of the barrel, and is .36 caliber. It is missing the piece that keeps the lever up under the barrel, and the bolt that the lever pivots on is completely stripped out. An internal flat spring is broken, and it looks like another small piece inside is pretty much worn out. I'm not sure what it's called but it connects to the piece that locks the cylinder when it's cocked. The cylinder is also dinged pretty bad, from what looks like someone dry-firing it with the cylinder not lined up.

Is this a wall-hanger parts gun like I suspect, or worth fixing up? I assume parts are readily available somewhere but haven't been able to find them.

Mine is a Navy Arms .44 cal (not sure about model- bought it used. The guy said it was an Italian replica of a Colt). I look forward to shooting it as soon as I buy a set of moulds and some powder.

 

[Niner]

Take a look at a Dixie Gun Works 1851 Navy parts list. Maybe that will give you an idea of the cost of making it work.

 

[scrat]

ok take a look at the underside. you will see some markings. We need some clarification on to what the markings are this will help on solving the mystery of who made the gun.

here is a link on how to identify the gun

https://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/MBPProofmarks.pdf


now for the parts vti gun parts is the best place to get them at however you need to know who made the gun.

http://www.vtigunparts.com/

hope this helps.

 

[fatelk]

Thanks for the info and links. I did figure out that mine is a Uberti made in 1970, but I still can't figure out who made my friend's.

It looks like it was made in 1964 (XX), and has the typical Italian proof marks, but no other marks other than "EIG NAVY" on the top of the barrel.

Can other brands of parts be made to work, if we can't figure it out? It looks like the parts can be had for under $30, but then there's still the stripped, wallowed-out threads to deal with.

I only paid $100 for my Uberti in excellent condition, was told I got a good price.

 

[mykeal]

The real key to whether your friend's gun can be made to work is the condition of the barrel bore and the cylinder chambers.

The action parts can be purchased and replaced (I'd recommend changing all of them at one time - if some are already worn/broken the others can't be far behind. Not knowing the manufacturer may mean that some filing and fitting will be necessary, but it's very likely that the effort will not be too difficult.

But if the bore or chambers are badly rusted or pitted the gun should not be used. The cylinder can be replaced, but it's considerably more difficult and less likely to fit if the brand isn't known. Replacing the barrel is prohibitively expensive.

 

[fatelk]

The inside of the bore and cylinder both look fine. I looked around on the Dixie Gun Works site and think I'll be making an order.
Thanks, all.

 

[Misfire99]

Can other brands of parts be made to work, if we can't figure it out? It looks like the parts can be had for under $30, but then there's still the stripped, wallowed-out threads to deal with.

Those aren't "wallowed-out threads" they are grease grooves and they are supposed to look like that. They are to hold lubrication and allow the fouling a place to go so the cylinder doesn't lock up so soon. In other words you don't need to fix it as it isn't broke.

 

[mykeal]

Those aren't "wallowed-out threads" they are grease grooves and they are supposed to look like that. They are to hold lubrication and allow the fouling a place to go so the cylinder doesn't lock up so soon.

Misfire99 - you may be talking about different parts. The only 'grease grooves' I'm aware of are on the base pin - he's talking about the screw/bolt that the loading lever pivots on. I'm not aware that has any grease grooves.

 

[Misfire99]

Misfire99 - you may be talking about different parts. The only 'grease grooves' I'm aware of are on the base pin - he's talking about the screw/bolt that the loading lever pivots on. I'm not aware that has any grease grooves.

Reread the top level post and I guess you are right.