What is so great about the Glock?

[michiganfan]

I have had HK's , Sigs, Berettas. Browning Hi Powers, 1911's, Kel Tecs, Taurus, etc. Still have all except the HKs. Glock is my carry every day. Pull point and fire. Dont get any simplier than that.

 

[Trempel]

Moreover, they are LESS SAFE than an XD, and anyone who puts it all on the SHOOTER doesn't understand human factors at all-go drive your UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED Corvair or whatever...

Though the Glock is, objectively, not such an extreme unsafe handgun, XD is safer, in my view.

So the grip safety is a substitute for crappy and dangerous gun handling? someone who can't keep their finger off the trigger, might eventually do it while the grip safety is depressed, or the thumb safety off. Mechanical safeties are not a safeguard against stupidity. And I agree, stupidity is a human factor.

Say a inexperienced person like maybe someones wife that you might have only taken shooting once or twice. You load the gun up with 15 rounds and one in the chamber and then decock your gun and place it in the safe.Your gone one day and an intruder breaks in your wife has the gun and for some reason the first strike with DA does not work all she has to do is pull the trigger again then hopfully it goes bang.

If a round doesn't go bang on the first time, there's no guarantee that it will on the second. This is a matter of training and practice, but clearing a bad round might be time better spent in such circumstances. With modern defensive ammo being what it is, you'd have a much higher chance of an inexperienced shooter being overcome by fear, combining with lack of familiarity with the weapon, making for a bad outcome.

I have trained my wife with a revolver just pull the trigger.

Excellent point. With a revolver, once you get a bad round, squeeze the trigger again and you don't have to deal with it any more. Unless, of course, it's a hangfire which goes boom after that particular chamber rotated out of battery. That would suck terribly, but is probably not very likely with any decent defense ammo.

 

[Dilbert]

Tools

Glocks are more like tools to me than a traditional handgun. All flat black and ugly.
Of course they are all business and work to perfection. Just like a tool should.

 

[DENALI]

I think I'll respond to several fanciful comments regarding the Glock pistol and it's nearest competetors.
You, the OP if still in the hunt, pay close attention as I'll almost certainly be attacked by the ant-Glock lunatic fringe thats already made themselves welcome.
1. Anyone comparing a single action pistol with no external safety device to an DAO and claiming it the safer of the two is dangerously misguided!
2. I actually own an M&P 9c and it seems to be a great little pistol, but as it's only been available for about a year, it's just to soon to crown it superior to anything, let alone equal to it! For instance, it has a more complicated manual of arms than the Glock, thats not my opinion, thats based on my factual observation's. It requires the operator to manipulate two separate levers to accomplish what is done with one on the Glock, yes you can still pull the trigger to pop the slide off but I'm assured by S&W that this can result in damage to component parts. Further whether you like it or not, S&W also strongly recomends you not dry-fire the pistol without snapcap in place, the technician I chatted with said they were concerned about too much vibration to the striker, and actually this coincides with the many tales of broken or damaged strikers on M&P pistols circulating the web! There's more but I'll abstain from further negativity in regards to this little pistol, it may well end up being the ne plus ultra of polymer pistols, just not until S&W tweaks the platform over the next several years or so.
3. They're capable of firing out of battery! The Mecca of the lunatic fringe anti-Glock crowd, if this was true, do you think for a moment the John Edwards of the world, the Sarah Brady's, the Hillary's, not to mention every LEA across America, every other firearm manufacture'r wouldn't have ganged up long, long ago and buried Glock. Glock, if this was true would be extinct!
4. They offer no second strike capability after a hard primer! Actually the one solid objection to most any striker fired pistol system, and one I've never experienced in all the Glock pistol's I've owned since 1996. You'll have to decide for yourself on this issue, I've only had two such experiences in 35-years of shooting and that includes 4-years active duty in the US Navy.
5. Glocks go KB instead of bang more often then the competition! In the US, there may be between 3,000,000 and 5,000,000 Glock pistols roaming about, those kinds of numbers are certain to generate stories and embellishments that take on a life of there own. This I know, any pistol can go KB instead of bang with the right amount of help!
6. LEA's only buy Glocks because Glock undercuts there price point! I've got news for you, the only reason you're not spending $8-900.00 per Glock is because they've flooded the market. They've flooded the market because just about every LEA thats tested them against the other LE centered product has found them demonstrably superior. They've flooded the market because the average American shooter almost always looks to there local PD for inspiration as to what works best, and in this instance Glock works best, and this is why you'll be very hard pressed to hear much in the way of negativity about Glock's from there owners, thats because as a group, they tend to be very satisfied with the performance to dollar spent ratio.
I could go on and on, simply put Glock arrived at there lofty perch because they climbed the mountain, they earned it. And thats why you hear so much from so little of a group of very loud anti-Glockers, They hate it because it is so good...

 

[tblt]

nothing

 

[KINGMAX]

Glock 21

I selected a GLOCK 21 for just one reason. Dependability! Looks had nothing to do w/ it. I spent $536.00 for one NIB, OTD. That is not alot of money for that level of dependability in a handgun. I followed a 30 day torture test someone did online w/ a GLOCK 21. I was impressed w/ the results.

I have adjusted to the stiff DA only trigger. It is a bit heavy, but in the excitement of the moment, I don't think I will sqeeze off a round by accident. This is a good thing.

An XD is a great weapon without any question. The answer will be in what you choose for yourself.

 

[Javelin]

Its quite honestly built so simple and durably its a *masterpiece*. And the part that makes Glock *amazing* is that the manufacturer does not bend customers over to purchase one.

 

[pablo45]

Yeah, but "ole Betsy" doesn't have an airbag (read grip safety!).

I personally hate grip safeties. I think they are a waste of mechanic's on the gun. Just my opinion. They serve no purpose. I might as well have a button in my shoe that I must push when I am ready to shoot.
That is why I like Glock over the XD also. Plus the Xd should of been out 10 years ago to work out all the kinks.

 

[HOLY DIVER]

i own a springfield 1911 i target shoot with(love it)but it's alittle big for a carry pistol thats why i bought a glock26 about 3 hours ago
there is not a sub-compact out there that will shoot as good as a fullsized 1911,i know that,but as far as subcompact pistols go i put my trust in the glock26

 

[MarcusWendt]

S&W also strongly recomends you not dry-fire the pistol without snapcap in place

Uh, no, not true
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...talogId=10001&content=13012&sectionId=10504#2

Can I dry fire my S&W handgun?
Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson?

A: Yes, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.

5. Glocks go KB instead of bang more often then the competition! In the US, there may be between 3,000,000 and 5,000,000 Glock pistols roaming about, those kinds of numbers are certain to generate stories and embellishments that take on a life of there own. This I know, any pistol can go KB instead of bang with the right amount of help!

And yet Glocks do blow up and they have a far greater reputation for doing so than almost any other modern firearm. There are threads, there are pictures and even videos about it, but some would have you believe it's all a myth.

It's not that anyone "hates" Glocks, it just that many people don't buy into the cult like following of the koolaid drinking Glockers. Some of us don't want to own a gun that has a reputation for blowing up, or in the term created specifically for the Glock, KABOOM! Some of us just don't want to own a gun that can't should lead. Some of us don't just go for the cheapest economy gun available. For some reason that makes Glock owners think we're haters.

I'm sure Glocks have their place, but they are no special in any way. They are o.k. at best. They jam and have FTF and stove pipe like any other firearm.

There are just so many other quality manufacturers out there to choose from that there's just no reason to go for the cheapest option.

 

[Boanerges57]

the xd is not d/a only. The striker is partially precocked, kind of cheating on the trigger pull. The glock es very rugged and capable. It is also very common, therefore there are more accidents with them. If more cars on the road were fords it would follow that fords would statistically be involved in more accidents. There are a number of excellent poly guns around. It really does come down to preference. Try one and make an informed decision based on experience.

 

[DENALI]

There you go Samuel Adams, thats a textbook lunatic fringe anti-Glocker offering up their frustration for all to enjoy, not one shred of of intellegent data for us to consume, not one!

 

[Confederate]

Why do you want to be sold on a Glock?

I don't much care for 'em, either. Putting a safety on a trigger is like putting a brake on an accelerator! Who thought of that? And why does Glock refuse to put a safety on their guns, despite a sizable demand?

Think, have you ever seen an engraved Glock? Why not? Could it be that engraved plastic just doesn't look very good? Having said that, the gun is lighter and it is more reliable. But having said that, every single police department or federal agency that has gone to Glock from some other firearm has experienced an increase in accidental discharges.

Are Glocks safe? Sure, if you treat them with the respect you'd treat any other gun. But, unlike any other gun, if it falls off a table, instinctively grabbing for it might cause the gun to go off.

Me, I'm more at ease with a Beretta or a Smith & Wesson 659 (5906) or 645 (4506). But people are different. Chances are, if you need to be sold on something, you probably won't like it.

 

[DENALI]

Actually I've seen an engraved Glock, frame and all, and it really looked stupid. Besides, engraving plastic framed pistols flys in the face of the logic that created them..............

 

[inherentical]

I used to hate Glocks until I got one.

 

[Big Boomer]

Glocks are the best weapon ever created PERIOD. They NEVER FTF, FTE, FTF period. I have over 100,000 rounds through mine. I only cleaned it once and that was because it was just getting junk on my white shirts from all the powder residue.

I've used it in freezing temperatures, in desert heat, even shot 2 mags full under water (I guess you could call that a cleaning...) they are tough as nails, no other gun comes close period.

I never even lube the thing they don't need it, I think it likes grit from sand as lube or something because it just runs fine with no help.

I've shot hundreds of pistols, ya even those stupid expensive 1911's. I get much better accuracy from my Glock. I can even put a mag full on a pie plate at 50 yards rapid fire at night. Slow fire, I can do it at 100!

I can run super hot to super mild ammo through it without a hitch, any bullet made will feed through it with ease.

You people are just dumb if you don't buy a glock, haven't you figured it out yet? 5+ million Glock owners out there can't be wrong. After all, our LEO's and other agencies use the best so there ya go.

 

[davepool]

Glock G20 10mm....nuff said

 

[Stephen A. Camp]

No one is necessarily "dumb" if they do not buy a certain handgun. This sort of name calling is both not needed, not welcome and is against THR Rules. It causes threads to be locked as this one will be and can cause members to be banned. Those interested in staying here might heed this one and only warning.