What is the Best 4 inch 38 or 357 ?

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I might be needing to switch over to a 4inch revolver, I currently use a 6in Ruger GP100 so naturally the 4in GP100 comes to mind, but I am also impressed with the S&W 327 8 shot performance center guns. Not had a chance to actually shoot one though.

Maybe there are other better options out there?
 
The best 4" .38/.357M available now is the tapered lug 8-shooter N-frame - regular stock - 627 Pro. Second best - 620 - actually a 4" 686+ with a shortened lug.

Stainz
 
IMHO the Smith & Wesson model 19 is what has always done it for me. Plenty of power in magnums & mild loads in 38 special. What more can you ask for? NRA PATRON LIFE MEMBER
 
I had a Smith Model 67 which was a nice revolver. But, I liked, and still like, my 4" Colt Trooper Mk III better. A Ruger Police Service Six is a great revolver, too.

Ash
 
My namesake, the model 19 is the ultimate IMNSHO, and the other option would be a Ruger Security/Police Service six
 
The S&W 627 is now offered in non-Performance Center models.

There's one in the NightGuard series and a Pro-Series model as well. The NightGuard one isn't milled for moon-clips.

I have a 5" PC model and just got a 4" Pro-Series one. Only down side is that they are N-Frames and are a bit heavy and wide for CCW.

Both shoot great, and the moon-clips make them quick to reload. The 627's moonclips can be a bit picky on what brass works best (mine like Federal brass best). But once you figure that out, they are smooth and reliable. The guns themselves are fine, with good triggers from the factory that got even better with use.

If size isn't a factor, then its hard to beat ".357 mag, 8-times".
 
KodeFore,

Why the need to switch?

It might make a difference in the responses you get.

For a general purpose 4" 38/357, I would recommend a S&W K frame revovler.

If you are considering competition, I used a 4" L frame very effectively when shooting in PPC competition.

And if you are considering a 4" N frame, I would suggest a different cartridge, but that is not what you asked.

As you can see, I am a S&W fan, there are other makes available but not having used them, I can not comment.
 
I've never had the pleasure of shooting an old minty S&W, however of modern revolvers I am quite fond of the GP100. Anything that overbuild in both hot load handling and part life can't be bad. And it shoots great too. I love my 3" version. Only problem I see is that new ones have those hogue grips on them now :barf:
 
Parts are available for the Colt, but not perhaps as readily as the S&W as the Colt is not in production. However, they can be had all the same with a google search, including those parts that Numrich is out of.

Ash
 
What is the Best 4 inch 38 or 357 ?

That depends on what you mean by best. If you're referring to brute strength, I would say a ruger GP-100 in stainless. If your definition of best is a finely finished firearm complete w/ bragging rights, a S&W 686 Distinquished Combat magnum might be just the ticket. If we are speaking personal defense, it matters little which you get. There are a lot of reliable wheelies in 38/357 out there. It's all personal opinion, and somewhat academic. As for me, I would pass over a new Ruger to purchase a used Smith. But that's just a personal opinion. Your mileage may vary. :)
 
"Best" has many definitions. For a little while I searched for the ultimate medium frame outdoor carry. I wanted a .357 K frame sized gun for light weight and I wanted extreme accuracy with .38 and .357, but emphasis on .38 for small game. I had a Security Six originally, 3" or more at 25 yards with wadcutter .38s, not good. Got a Smith M19 about that time, a little better, but around 2" ain't that good. I then traded the Security Six for a Blackhawk, very good, around an ince at 25 with .38 or .357, but it was heavy and had a 6.5" barrel. I've kept that one, though, for hunting. Accurate gun. All these guns were excellent guns for self defense, just didn't meet my .38 wadcutter accuracy level. So, I get a Rossi M971, kinda rough after owning a Smith and a Ruger, lots of tool marks, not high attention to detail, but it shot well, 2" at 25 with .38s and .357s. I traded it, though, when I found a used stainless .45 Colt Blackhawk I really wanted and don't really miss the Rossi. Then, I bought this used Taurus M66 in prime shape at a gun show for $197 and my search for the accurate .357 medium frame outdoor carry ended. This thing puts wadcutters into 1" ragged holes and might shoot tighter out of a ransom rest. AMAZING. With a good .357 load, it'll do the same. It's as well detailed as the Ruger and Smith and has a slick DA. I LOVE this thing. It might not meet your definition of the best, but is sure does fill MY needs. I've fired quite a few .38 and .357 rounds since getting it and it's holding up very well. I also found a 3" older Taurus M66 that's nearly as accurate, a gun show deal for $180, and it makes a great IWB carry, but the 4" newer gun has the transfer bar action and has a nicer DA in addition to being a little more accurate.

There are times I wish I didn't sell the 19, considering what they go for now days. And, the Ruger was a rugged gun, but it seemed to recoil/muzzle flip pretty bad and just didn't have the accuracy with .38s, though it did fine with .357s it liked.

A friend has a 686 Smith, a FINE gun, accurate, more rugged built than my old M19, but heavier to carry. I've only fired a GP100 once and it's as heavy a gun as my 6.5" Blackhawk. Not really the medium frame guns I was looking for to carry afield. The Taurus works for me much better in that roll. For a range shooter, about any good .357 is fine. Heck, I really liked that little cheap Rossi, really. Only about 30 ounces and stainless. It may not be "the best", but it'll dang sure do the job.

There are many good choices in .38s and .357s out there. You just have to satisfy YOUR needs and what YOU want. If you're a brand freak, go for that brand. Nobody has the same idea of perfection and my criteria were perhaps unique to me. Not many give a squat about fine accuracy other than maybe target shooters, but when you're trying to hit a rabbit's head at 25 yards, an accurate gun is nice to have. I carried that Rossi the most, took the most game with it. Took quite a few early morning rabbits for camp meat on hunting trips and took a Javelina with it once. It got the job done, I just really, really wanted that .45 Blackhawk and used it in the deal cause I didn't have the cash at the time. Someday, maybe I'll get another one, but I'm real happy with the Taurus. I really don't miss the Ruger, rough to shoot, not pleasant. The Smith, well, I got a good deal for it or I'd have kept it. It was a nice gun, just the money got to me at the time and I carried the Rossi for its light weight and stainless construction anyway. It was almost as accurate as the 19 and got the job done afield just as well while I didn't have to worry about the finish. I really liked the light weight of the gun, too.

What, none of you gun snobs has mentioned the Colt Python???????? :D Want the finest made, finest finished, most beautiful, most classic, best action BY FAR at any price, well, toss that POS Smith and Wesson in the scrap bin and go looking for a Python. Anything else is JUNK by comparison.
 
My vote goes to the L Frame 586-7 4" .357 Magnum, 7 shot. Here's mine...

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If you want a .38 Special then buy a S@W Model 10. Got five of them about the house and they are great. One was picked up at a pawn shop for $125 in very nice condition. If you want a .357 then get a Model 19.
 
I submit that the answer depends on the emphasis. Do you want a gun that will shoot a lot of .38's and Can shoot the occasional .357, or do you want a gun that's really framed and proportioned to shoot the .357?

If the former, then a K-frame--19 or 66 (I like adjustable sights) is about the perfect balance. Maybe the most ergonomic and well balanced handgun ever made.

If the latter, then you really want something bigger--at least an L-frame (i.e. 620 or 686), though I'm inclined toward the N-frame 627 as the real deal for a genuine purpose-built .357 shooter.

Why no Rugers on my list? I own and have shot a number of them, the best of which is a Security Six. It's a fine gun, but no amount of work or shooting has been able, IME, to get a Ruger's trigger as good as a Smith's.

Why no Colts? Just don't have any experience with 'em; so mebbe I'm missing out there. But I love my S&W's so well I just can't feel hurt about it!
 
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