MeekandMild
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JackStraw,
Nope, slander is the word I was looking for. More specifically when the person whose licence number and address you (or the hypothecital other cat protector) gather and use in your activities sues you for slander, i.e. according to Webster, "the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation" then I would be more than happy to provide them expert testimony as a trained biologist and as a person who has provided amicus curi testimony in various cases on various subjects through many long years.
I was not aware you considered your proposed actions libelous, according to Webster "a : a written or oral defamatory statement or representation that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression b (1) : a statement or representation published without just cause and tending to expose another to public contempt (2) : defamation of a person by written or representational means " but I will ponder that revelation and study it further. Thank you for the information and chance for further enlightenment.
But why would I want to go to law school? What does that have to do with offering to help out as a friend of the court should someone actually defame (as opposed to making insinuating threats to do so) an honest person who is removing these vicious predators from their home and yard environment?
So since you brought up euthanasia, what is your method of choice for cats? Personally I think that carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide and natural gas are all unsuitable, as they are no better than slowly strangling the cat. Ketamine or barbaturate overdose are both too expensive and requires a licensed veteranarian to assist. Ether is less expensive and requires only a professionally supervised, trained lab technician but it presents an unacceptable fire hazard. Cervical dislocation, stunning and exanguination are all too risky for injury to the operator and for pain to the cat. KCl solution is excruciatingly painful except when used with anesthetic agents.
In fact, I think all these methods are barbaric and cruel, causing a great deal of unneeded suffering. The most humane way of dispensing with these predators is by shooting them in a rapid and immediate manner. In my own town the humane society (oxymoron?) gases unwanted dogs and cats which I find extraordinarily cruel. They normally take up to an hour to die.
Concerning kittens, if feral kittens are found when they are young they can be rehabilitated to become really great INDOOR housepets. I have done this with several through the years, being a cat person despite my understanding of the realities of ecology.
Art,
Thanks for the info. In this area the problem species are beach mice, deer footed mice, bluebirds, and song sparrows. I wonder why there is so much underestimaton of bird kill? could it also be that they are not counting nestlings when the parents have time to move and re-nest?
Nope, slander is the word I was looking for. More specifically when the person whose licence number and address you (or the hypothecital other cat protector) gather and use in your activities sues you for slander, i.e. according to Webster, "the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation" then I would be more than happy to provide them expert testimony as a trained biologist and as a person who has provided amicus curi testimony in various cases on various subjects through many long years.
I was not aware you considered your proposed actions libelous, according to Webster "a : a written or oral defamatory statement or representation that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression b (1) : a statement or representation published without just cause and tending to expose another to public contempt (2) : defamation of a person by written or representational means " but I will ponder that revelation and study it further. Thank you for the information and chance for further enlightenment.
But why would I want to go to law school? What does that have to do with offering to help out as a friend of the court should someone actually defame (as opposed to making insinuating threats to do so) an honest person who is removing these vicious predators from their home and yard environment?
So since you brought up euthanasia, what is your method of choice for cats? Personally I think that carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide and natural gas are all unsuitable, as they are no better than slowly strangling the cat. Ketamine or barbaturate overdose are both too expensive and requires a licensed veteranarian to assist. Ether is less expensive and requires only a professionally supervised, trained lab technician but it presents an unacceptable fire hazard. Cervical dislocation, stunning and exanguination are all too risky for injury to the operator and for pain to the cat. KCl solution is excruciatingly painful except when used with anesthetic agents.
In fact, I think all these methods are barbaric and cruel, causing a great deal of unneeded suffering. The most humane way of dispensing with these predators is by shooting them in a rapid and immediate manner. In my own town the humane society (oxymoron?) gases unwanted dogs and cats which I find extraordinarily cruel. They normally take up to an hour to die.
Concerning kittens, if feral kittens are found when they are young they can be rehabilitated to become really great INDOOR housepets. I have done this with several through the years, being a cat person despite my understanding of the realities of ecology.
Art,
Thanks for the info. In this area the problem species are beach mice, deer footed mice, bluebirds, and song sparrows. I wonder why there is so much underestimaton of bird kill? could it also be that they are not counting nestlings when the parents have time to move and re-nest?
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