Not sure where you're getting your info from. In CA, you can can carry daggers of any size, as long as they're carried openly. (CPC 12020 a 4, 12020 c 25 d) They can not be carried on campus, but you can carry a concealed folder of any size onto a college or university.
What is the least useful self-defense advice you have ever heard?
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Not sure where you're getting your info from. In CA, you can can carry daggers of any size, as long as they're carried openly. (CPC 12020 a 4, 12020 c 25 d) They can not be carried on campus, but you can carry a concealed folder of any size onto a college or university.
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RS14
I know it's been afew years but when I was attending college in KALI, I was told by the chief of the UP that folders had to be less than 2 1/2 inches and single sided if carried concealed (in your pocket). Don't really care, not there but that conflicts with what I was told.
I know it's been afew years but when I was attending college in KALI, I was told by the chief of the UP that folders had to be less than 2 1/2 inches and single sided if carried concealed (in your pocket). Don't really care, not there but that conflicts with what I was told.
earlthegoat2
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We better plant a knife on him just to be sure.
Foofles
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I have this conversation almost verbatim with many people in NYC:
"Shooting someone trying to mug/rob/attack/etc. you wouldn't solve anything."
"It would solve me dying."
"Not really, you would just go to jail."
As well as "A piece of metal won't save you" .. both also from someone that carries a knife on a daily basis for personal protection. Right.
Also hear things like:
"Just tie the person up and wait for the police, it's better than killing them. "
"Don't do anything, the robber/etc. doesn't want to hurt you and anything you do will just make him mad."
"Tell them to stop and that it's bothering you, they'll leave you alone"
The city has polluted the minds of everyone.
"Shooting someone trying to mug/rob/attack/etc. you wouldn't solve anything."
"It would solve me dying."
"Not really, you would just go to jail."
As well as "A piece of metal won't save you" .. both also from someone that carries a knife on a daily basis for personal protection. Right.
Also hear things like:
"Just tie the person up and wait for the police, it's better than killing them. "
"Don't do anything, the robber/etc. doesn't want to hurt you and anything you do will just make him mad."
"Tell them to stop and that it's bothering you, they'll leave you alone"
The city has polluted the minds of everyone.
easyg
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"Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword".
Simply not true.
There have been plenty of folks who lived by the sword yet died of disease, accidents, or old age.
Simply not true.
There have been plenty of folks who lived by the sword yet died of disease, accidents, or old age.
Commander Crusty
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Dumbest Self Defense Advice Ever:
Never resists. If you put up a fight, you might get hurt!
Never resists. If you put up a fight, you might get hurt!
RS14 said:
I thought about mentioning that, but I'm guessing that if the guy is in college, he's carrying a concealed dagger. Just my guess.
They may have rules like that on campus, but state law has no size limit on folding knives, and daggers can be openly carried, no size limit.Shadow 7D said:
FYI, that is a quote from the New Testament:
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that draw the sword shall perish with the sword. —Matthew 26:52. Frequently translated as 'Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword'
He's the man who also said, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." (Luke 22:36); I can guarantee His advice is the best you'll get.
Darkninja
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I'm pretty sure he was joking. As for the advice, some may debate it, but this is neither the time nor place for any sort of religious discussion.
"Just talk to the rapist, tell them that you understand"
Yeah ok, then I'll just throw up on them... I'll think I'll stick to the the tried and true 00 buck shot.
Ignorance and elitism are both socially transmitted diseases.
My sister had a boyfriend like that guy for a while. That guy had a ridiculous "what if" argument for anything he couldn't argue against with facts.
On the topic of ridiculous self-defense advice...
"Just call the police. They'll take care of it."
My neighbor once called the police and reported a string of (what he thought were) six gunshots right outside his home. This is a well populated area, lots of people, lots of cars. FIFTEEN (that 15!) minutes later one patrol car with one officer in it drives by. I happened to be standing in a shadow under a tree as the officer drove by, and he never even noticed me.
JMusic
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Turn the other cheek. Didn't Jesus say that
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Jim
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orvpark
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Ragnar is spot on.
And I love your name, by the way. Still working on stamping out Robin Hood, I suppose?
Atlas Shrugged not Robin Hood
MedWheeler
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"You don't need to carry if you don't live in the ghetto or Bosnia, or *insert war-torn locale here*."
(I read this here on THR all the time..)
(I read this here on THR all the time..)
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You mean Ragnar the pirate?
Detachment Charlie
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I remember this from Navy SERE school back in the mid-60's (and I remember VERY little from that period) -- when confronted at arms length by an attacker with a 1911-style pistol, reach out and grab the 1911 by the slide, forcing the slide back enough to allow the disconnector to render the pistol safe, hold on tight and kick him in the nuts.
You could do this, but I'll opt for skipping the first part and get right to the nuts part.
) -- when confronted at arms length by an attacker with a 1911-style pistol, reach out and grab the 1911 by the slide, forcing the slide back enough to allow the disconnector to render the pistol safe, hold on tight and kick him in the nuts.You could do this, but I'll opt for skipping the first part and get right to the nuts part.
alsaqr
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"Just give them what they want."
James T Thomas
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is that so?
BrianB:
It wasn't too long ago that ratio was 500:1.
A 100% increase over the former level /decrease in protection and defense for the public.
BrianB:
It wasn't too long ago that ratio was 500:1.
A 100% increase over the former level /decrease in protection and defense for the public.
Shadow 7D
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Um, James, I do believe that you have your math backwards..
That would be decrease, interesting that the 1 cop (not first responder, as EMTs and firemen don't prevent crime) to 1000 residents seems to be the average for most parts of the US
That would be 1:1000 police : to residents
That would be decrease, interesting that the 1 cop (not first responder, as EMTs and firemen don't prevent crime) to 1000 residents seems to be the average for most parts of the US
That would be 1:1000 police : to residents
hillmillenia
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Some of this stuff is plain aggravating. Shows the need for education and by the way, bird shot in your living room will absolutley stop an attacker dead if you aim...sorry I didn't have any anecdotes to add but you must admit the ignorance is quite irritating. Oh and if an assailant doen't stop to the racking of a pump-action, he needs to be removed from the gene pool anyway.
jordan1948
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"See what you do is, if you ever need to defend yourself you just grab that SOB by the wind-pipe, clamp down and he'll do what ever you want." IF I need to defend myself I want to do it from a distance, I don't want to get close enough to find out if he's got a knife of a gun.
"With this here pump action Mossberg, all I have to do is rack the slide and the bad guy will crap himself and run away!"
I follow up with "Gee, guess you don't actually even need any ammo then, right? Since you'll never have to fire a shot..."
Followed by "Well this here .45 only holds half as many rounds as your 9mm but that's OK because unlike you, I intend to aim every single round instead of spray-and-pray..."
I generally follow that up with a well placed "Oh, I get it. You're right. So you're saying you just load one round in the chamber then and take the magazine out? Because since you're such a good shot and all, you're not going to need those other six or seven rounds in your 1911, right?"
One of the worst bits of advice I see slung around...
"Violence never solves anything."
Personally, I think violence has solved a lot of things. All kinds of decisions have been made through the use of violence.
It's not the violence itself that's the problem - it's what it used for and who is using it. But there are times (however rare) when violence is the ONLY solution.
I follow up with "Gee, guess you don't actually even need any ammo then, right? Since you'll never have to fire a shot..."
Followed by "Well this here .45 only holds half as many rounds as your 9mm but that's OK because unlike you, I intend to aim every single round instead of spray-and-pray..."
I generally follow that up with a well placed "Oh, I get it. You're right. So you're saying you just load one round in the chamber then and take the magazine out? Because since you're such a good shot and all, you're not going to need those other six or seven rounds in your 1911, right?"
One of the worst bits of advice I see slung around...
"Violence never solves anything."
Personally, I think violence has solved a lot of things. All kinds of decisions have been made through the use of violence.
It's not the violence itself that's the problem - it's what it used for and who is using it. But there are times (however rare) when violence is the ONLY solution.
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OTOH, both of these also kind of taken out of context. Like anything else we see (including the statistics that anti-gunners love to debate us with), you have to pay attention to the context.
But I may have made a mistake by even replying to this. Don't want to go too far into religion. Just always kind of irritates me that people sling stuff like that out without really considering the whole situation surrounding it.
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